Episode 32

Digital Disasters and Strawberry Robots: A Survival Guide

Warning: Carissa admits she Googled "Dame un grr" for 20 minutes and discovered constipation is now a trend. We're all questioning reality.

This week, your favorite disasters dissect living authentically when robots write catchier songs than humans but they're about microwaves having existential crises. We decode the psychological mindfuck of Gen Z trends, explain why people voluntarily stopped pooping for July, and explore how a Coldplay CEO scandal proves literally everything becomes content.

Shaun bought a strawberry robot phone case that serves zero purpose except joy—making it the most honest purchase of 2025. Peter's coworker got fired because someone else quit (capitalism logic at its finest), while we're all dodging bots selling porn and life coaching in the same DM.

Between AI songs about appliance anxiety and friends posting like they personally gave birth to their sister's baby, we're unpacking why every conversation sounds like a TED talk for ghosts. Plus: the soul-crushing exhaustion of performing your life while algorithms feed you nonsense instead of human connection.

The verdict: When even Spotify is fake, buying unnecessary fruit-themed accessories might be peak authenticity. We're all chasing meaning, but the algorithm keeps serving constipation challenges.

Perfect for: Anyone who's ever yelled "WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!" at their phone, people exhausted by digital performance art, and humans seeking actual humans in a bot-infested hellscape.

Contains: Trend decoding chaos, workplace absurdity, bot harassment comedy, AI music roasting, and the eternal quest for authentic connection in a world run by psychotic algorithms.

Transcript
Shaun:

What's up, beautiful disasters.

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It's Shaun and I need

to confess something.

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Before we dive into today's episode.

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I am currently the proud owner of

a Strawberry Robot vape case that

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serves absolutely no functional

purpose other than making me

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smile every time I look at it.

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And you know what?

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In a world where AI is writing songs about

microwaves, having existential crises.

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At 3:00 AM and where is apparently

something that Gen Z understands, and

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I don't where my dms are filled with

bots trying to sell me both porn and

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life coaching in the same message.

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That little strawberry robot might be the

most authentic thing in my life right now.

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Today we're talking about living in a

digital hellscape where the algorithm

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knows what we want before we do, but what

it's serving us makes absolutely no sense.

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We've got TikTok trends that sound

like someone's having a stroke,

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friends living vicariously through

their siblings life, milestones and

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workplace drama that defies all logic.

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Plus Peter got some family bullshit.

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This week I bought a bunch of dangling

nose rings I'll probably never wear,

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and Carissa discovered that apparently

no poop July is a real thing that

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real humans are participating in.

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So, buckle up 'cause

we're about to dive into.

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Why the search for authenticity in 2025?

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Feels like trying to find a

real human in a sea of bots.

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Spoiler alert, sometimes that

search leads you to buy unnecessary

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strawberry themed accessories.

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And honestly, that might be the

sanest response to all of this chaos.

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Apocalypse and avocados.

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Peter: Welcome back, chaos Crew

to Apocalypse and avocados.

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I'm joined once again

by Carissa and Shaun.

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Carissa: Woo.

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What up?

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Peter: And today we are going

to go over how life is being

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affected by the digital hellscape.

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Let me ask you both.

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Have either of you successfully figured

out what the fuck is supposed to mean?

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Carissa: No.

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I hate it so much.

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Shaun: Gimme a girl.

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Carissa: Okay.

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Okay.

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That's all I fucking hear.

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Every time I go through Instagram or any

kind of social media, I get that fucking

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TikTok trend and I'm so tired of it.

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What's a gura?

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Tell me, fucking tell me.

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Peter: Is that a purring kitty?

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Carissa: That sounds like a sexy,

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Peter: that's why I was talking

about the purring kitty.

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Anyway, I don't know.

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I think it's supposed to mean in

like, give me a ferocious moment.

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Like a sexy moment.

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So it's

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Carissa: a transition trend, right?

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Peter: We are not

supposed to say that word.

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It's very toxic in this

political climate here.

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Shaun: Who are you?

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Trump?

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Peter: Absolutely not.

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I'm not orange.

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This is a

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Carissa: fucking safe space.

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Okay, tell it right now.

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Peter: I honestly, I have no idea

and I'm getting real sick of these

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fucking TikTok trends anyway ish.

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What other ones have you seen?

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I know that the Bugatti one.

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Is really annoying the

fuck out of Carissa.

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Carissa: I'm tired of that one too.

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I'm sorry.

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How many times or different ways

or different people can you see get

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their head smacked on the floor?

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Let's be real.

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Peter: A hundred percent honest.

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I haven't really been using TikTok,

so like much I'll go through and

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I'll scroll once in a while, but I

haven't actually seen this trend.

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Carissa: I woke up in a new

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Peter: buggati.

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You haven't?

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I sent it to you guys.

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Yeah.

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And I've been so focused on getting

everything I need to get done.

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I haven't watched many of these things.

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So what the fuck is this trend?

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So it's that song.

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Carissa: It's that song.

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I woke up in a new Bugatti, and then you

pretend like you're putting a car in gear

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and you put your hand on the steering

wheel and somebody pulls you by your legs.

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Someone

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Shaun: offscreen, offscreen,

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Carissa: pulls you by your legs out

of the picture or the camera frame.

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Peter: Why would you wanna

have a horror movie moment?

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I don't get it.

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Exactly.

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It sounds like a stupid trend.

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Exactly.

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It becomes

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Shaun: funny when someone

pulls someone who's really

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light and they like yank them.

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Or when someone who cannot pull

the person 'cause they're too

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weak or the person's too heavy,

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Carissa: they're a little fluffy.

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Peter: So is this supposed to be

funny when someone gets brain damage

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Carissa: basically?

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It's

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Peter: really body shaming essentially.

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It's,

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Carissa: it is.

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Peter: It's, that's terrible.

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It's nicely

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Shaun: packaged, body shaming.

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Peter: I don't think I wanna

see this trend sounds terrible.

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Like why the fuck would you

wanna have somebody pull you?

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Shaun: I think we should do it.

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Peter: I don't agree you, first off,

you're not gonna move my fat ass

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on the floor, so if you're gonna

body shame me, you're only gonna

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body shame yourself there too.

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But I don't get it.

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Anyway.

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When was the first time

you guys saw this Ding?

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Good bullshit.

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Carissa: I don't know.

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I've seen it a lot more recently in

the last two or three weeks probably.

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Shaun: Was right before

we went to Puerto Rico.

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I heard you, I heard it on one

something you were listening to

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Peter: and that was a transition video.

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That was a drag queen.

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Carissa: Yes.

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They're all transition videos.

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It's like, how are you gonna gimme ager

when you looking like trash and then

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all of a sudden you look like a model.

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Peter: I feel like it, it's just

psychological warfare on you.

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Like you said, it's body shaming.

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It's feeling left out

of a cultural moment.

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Carissa: What if you're really

ugly and you want a gerr?

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Shaun: This these

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Carissa: are the, sorry.

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That was the voices.

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Shaun: You don't roll your R, you just g

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Peter: So they become a pirate.

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They get one.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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One eye, no missing teeth.

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Mm-hmm.

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About 900 pounds

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Shaun: long.

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Straggly, greasy hair.

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Carissa: Ugh.

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Shaun: In knots.

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Peter: The AL algorithm actually like

pushes this to your feed too if you're

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around people that are watching it.

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So that's probably why you saw it.

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'cause I was watching it.

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Shaun: Yeah, probably

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Peter: I don't know.

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But anyway, apparently there's another

trend that's making its resurgence and

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I have no fucking clue what this is.

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Shaun enlighten us as

to what No poop July is.

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Shaun: Okay, on TikTok there has been a

reboot of absurdity, essentially no poop.

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July made its annual resurgence,

jokingly challenging users to

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forego defecation for a month.

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Peter: I hate that word.

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I don't like the scientific

word for taking a shit.

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Shaun: Okay let's, let me re-say that

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Carissa: defecation

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Shaun: jokingly, challenging users

not to take a shit for a month.

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Carissa: Much better.

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Shaun: Doctors warn it's

dangerous, even in jest.

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So people please don't hold your shit in.

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Carissa: Why are people doing this?

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Don't do it.

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Why is this a fucking thing?

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Yeah.

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Why is this a trend?

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Peter: Your intestines

can literally explode.

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Shaun: It says jokingly, but

you know that there are people

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out there that are doing it.

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Peter: People fucking ate Tide pods.

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I'm pretty sure they'll put in

a butt plug for a fucking month

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and people started looking toilet

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Carissa: seats.

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Come on.

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Peter: That was disgusting.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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C

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Shaun: can we also talk about

some of the strange, bizarre

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food trends that go on TikTok?

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Like right now there's a ma A matcha.

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B biani.

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B Ani.

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Peter: What's that?

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That's Biani.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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Peter: As far as I knew, Biani was rice.

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Shaun: And then there's

roast corn, ice cream fusion.

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Carissa: Oh,

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Shaun: so we're back in Latice.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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They had a corn ice cream there.

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Shaun: No.

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Oh.

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I think this, these things are together.

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The matcha B bani and the corn

ice cream fusion went viral.

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Splitting the internet

between intrigue and disgust.

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Peter: That's disgusting.

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Sounds disgusting.

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That sounds terrible.

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Looks moldy.

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Moldy.

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Moldy.

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The milk is spicy.

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That's gross.

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What else is making a resurgence?

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Do you remember?

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Oh,

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Shaun: Not a resurgence, but their

gen alpha's language continues to

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mutate under the algorithmic pressure.

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That was a tongue twister.

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Peter: What are they saying now?

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Shaun: Slang like bop,

chopped uz shit with a y aura.

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Farming.

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Peter: That's not shit.

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That's shi.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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Shy.

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Peter: So we're getting more Irish

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Shaun: gooning go.

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We've said gooning for a while.

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It's not a good thing.

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Peter: Yeah, I, to be honest, I

don't even know what it means.

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Shaun: Okay.

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Peter: A hundred percent.

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Shaun: This is not safe for work.

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So if you're not listening

to this on headphones and

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you're at work, please stop.

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Gooning is when someone makes a

really like awful face when they come.

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Oh,

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Peter: okay.

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It's

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Shaun: really bad.

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Come face,

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Peter: essentially.

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Shaun: Okay.

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But it's typically like the ones who, like

their eyes look like they're gonna pop

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out of their head and they're like staring

you down, like through your soul and Yeah.

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That's like gooning, like

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Carissa: that's fucking terrifying.

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What the fuck?

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Peter: Why are they calling it Goonies?

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Carissa: Why?

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Why is somebody looking at you like that?

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Peter: Why is it so aggressive?

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Shaun: It's been a term for a

while like in the gay party scene.

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'cause people would goon, you would like.

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You'd focus hyperfocus on something

and you'd look like an idiot.

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You'd clench your jaw and stuff.

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So we would say that person is gooning.

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But now it's become like a mainstream term

that people are using all over the place.

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Peter: Ew.

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Shaun: It's just funny how many terms

come from the gay community and then

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go mainstream and people have no idea.

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Peter: Yeah, that's true.

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They think they're

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Carissa: cool.

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We started it.

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Yeah.

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Peter: The drag queens in particular,

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Carissa: I'm still stuck on

somebody's eyes bulging outta

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their head while they're coming.

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I just can't,

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Peter: can you imagine if I

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Carissa: run,

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Peter: if a lesbian did it?

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Carissa: I don't want to.

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It would look crazy.

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Shaun: I'm sure there are

some lesbians that do it.

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Let's be honest.

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Peter: None that I've met.

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Thank God you probably have an

aneurysm pop a blood vessel.

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I,

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Carissa: I'm terrified.

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Peter: I don't know.

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That's, that sounds awful.

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Carissa: What if that happened

and they were actually

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having a stroke or something?

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This is where my mind goes and

you're like, Hey, are you okay?

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Head falls off.

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Falls down.

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Are you okay?

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Shaun: You pick up the head, look,

hold it in front of your face.

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Are you okay?

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Peter: This is all making me

think just how ridiculous this is.

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It's making me think about the

whole cold place, the old thing.

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Shaun: Oh yes.

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Oh my God.

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I have so much to say.

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Peter: Oh.

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You haven't seen this Chris though?

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No.

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Carissa: I don't know anything about this.

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I let Shaun

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Peter: tell you.

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Shaun: So it's the CEO that was

caught at the Coldplay concert

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on the kiss cam with the hr.

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Oh, okay.

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Yes.

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The head of hr who ironically

the he, the head of hrs LinkedIn

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headline was winning CEO's trust.

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Yeah, we see how you're

winning that trust.

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Carissa: Wow.

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I didn't realize she was the head of hr.

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Shaun: Yeah, I

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Carissa: did see it though.

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I know what you're talking about.

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Shaun: And he like ducks down and tries

to hide and he is got his hands up dude.

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Carissa: The memes and the

ais for that are great.

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Shaun: The one where the, where they have

him like throwing her off into the sky.

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That one had me like dying.

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Peter: Look over there.

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That's terrible.

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I don't understand.

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And then he is like trying to blame the

band or putting him on the megatron dude,

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Shaun: maybe don't go to a

concert with the woman you're

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cheating on your wife with.

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Carissa: Or maybe he could have

pretended like all was good and kept

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on holding her, but because he made

such a big production about it, it

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ended up on the news and social media.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If he had just stood there

and didn't do anything, I'm

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sure no one would've noticed.

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Maybe somebody would've, but

it would not have gone to the

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extreme that it has gone too.

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Carissa: Right.

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I agree.

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Peter: Yeah.

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Just pretend that your friend's dancing.

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Carissa: Right.

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Peter: Or throw her, just

throw her off the balcony.

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Just

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Shaun: toss her into the air.

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Peter: There she goes.

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This is definitely an HR nightmare.

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I don't understand.

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How are you gonna blame the band for that?

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It's always a possibility when you

go to a major event that you're

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going to be on the Megatron.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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Peter: Everywhere.

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Shaun: Right.

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And he, is it this was a moment

that should not have been public

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or you went to a public place.

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Right.

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You made it public.

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Carissa: You reacting the

way you did, made it public.

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Shaun: If it wasn't supposed

to be a public thing, then you

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should have stayed at home.

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Carissa: Exactly.

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Ah, get off of me.

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That's all I thought when I saw it.

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Peter: It's just disturbing.

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And then for other people, like this

just leads into the fact that other

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people are making content out of it.

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They use other people's

misfortune to make content.

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It's gross, but funny always.

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Carissa: But it's hilarious.

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Peter: What was it before this?

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The it was some sort, some singer.

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Oh, Katy Perry With the, oh my god.

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With the thinking of you.

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And then the fact that

she was dancing like.

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The ridiculous robot on stage.

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Shaun: Didn't she just have another issue?

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Katy Perry with something going wrong

at one of her concerts, she was attached

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to something and it like malfunctioned,

malfunctioned, almost fell on the people.

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She almost

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Carissa: fell on the people in the crowd.

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Like a wire.

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She was like flying over the crowd.

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On the,

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Shaun: yeah, on some kind of device.

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Yeah, it was like a

plane or spaceship thing.

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Oh,

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Carissa: that was her?

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Yes.

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Your dad was just

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Peter: watching it the

other day on the news.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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Peter: I think her stage

crew's trying to kill her.

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Carissa: They've had enough of her shit.

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Peter: These fucking antics.

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The fuck is wrong with her.

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She does sing like that.

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Just quit the fucking cable.

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I've had enough.

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She didn't gimme a fucking

raise this year, bitch.

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Apparently she's a really terrible person

and I don't know if you guys know this

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but she wanted so much this property

that she saw, I believe it was in la.

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And it was previously, it was

inhabited already by a bunch of nuns.

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It was a nunnery.

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And

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Shaun: I can already see that this

is not gonna make her look good.

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Peter: No.

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And she wanted it so bad.

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It was the house that her in

Orlando Bloom were gonna live in.

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So she wanted it so bad.

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She offered so much money for it.

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And then when they told her no she took

them to court, got the lawyer on her side,

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the real estate lawyer to buy the property

with the promise that she was going

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to rehome the nuns to another nunnery.

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And she didn't follow

through on her promise.

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And one of the nuns literally

died in the courtroom testifying.

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Carissa: That's awful.

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Peter: Yeah.

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Carissa: And also scary.

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My mind just went, you know what?

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The voices can stay in

the voice in my head.

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I don't.

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Yep.

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Shaun: And Bezos sends her to space.

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Peter: He tried to kill her too.

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Let's, it didn't work.

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Let's shoot her up in a soda

can into the stratosphere.

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Rattle her around a bit.

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Maybe she'll die.

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Shaun: That's why she kiss the grunt oh

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Peter: my God, he was dying.

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But apparently she sued so many

times in her life that they

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have a law named after her.

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No, in California.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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That's crazy.

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But it's not the first time that

she's sued to get property either.

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Shaun: So really, her

name is Karen, not Katie.

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Peter: I think her real

name is Catherine Hudson.

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The fuck is wrong with her.

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I was just calling her Karen.

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That's all I know.

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But it's close.

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Yeah.

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So the nun thing, she sued because

she wanted this other guy's property

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and then didn't end up inhabiting

it, but got them kicked out.

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She's just not a good person.

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Shaun: She screams at fans about messaging

her husband, who's not even her husband,

446

:

who doesn't wanna be with her anymore.

447

:

Now,

448

:

Peter: apparently they were

seen on holiday together.

449

:

They say co-parenting, but it

looked like they were rekindling.

450

:

It was with his son and

her, their daughter.

451

:

Yeah.

452

:

Interesting.

453

:

I wanna say it was in San Pa, but I might

be wrong on the location, but I did see

454

:

someone had put on like sunscreen on him.

455

:

They took a family photo together.

456

:

It was very weird.

457

:

That

458

:

Carissa: is weird.

459

:

Peter: But yeah, that's going on.

460

:

She's just an awful person.

461

:

And how about this fucking AI content?

462

:

I know we talked about the.

463

:

The fat woman that was on the

jet ski, and she crashed into

464

:

the ocean and took down a ship.

465

:

Carissa: She went off a jump.

466

:

How did she get so much air?

467

:

That's what I'm still baffled at, that

468

:

Peter: it was gas and not in the jet ski.

469

:

She was propelled.

470

:

Yeah.

471

:

She,

472

:

Carissa: I like those

473

:

Peter: fat people are just full of gas.

474

:

That's it.

475

:

I said this before, they have butt

plugs and they're just full of gas.

476

:

Just take it out and it's gonna stink

for a while, but you gotta slow leak.

477

:

Mm.

478

:

O so yeah, that leads me into the

fact that we have friends that kind

479

:

of take on personality traits as well.

480

:

Have you heard of this?

481

:

It's like sympathetic living

syndrome, something along those lines.

482

:

I know you have a friend, Karissa

that's experiencing this right now that.

483

:

Their sister just had a baby or,

484

:

Carissa: yes.

485

:

My best friend's sister just had

a baby a couple months ago and

486

:

I haven't seen my best friend.

487

:

I think I've seen her like once and

every time I ask her to hang out,

488

:

I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

489

:

And she's like, oh, you know,

my sister just had a baby.

490

:

I'm like, bitch, you act

like you just had the baby.

491

:

What the fuck do you mean?

492

:

She's like, yeah, I'm just

tired, I'm babysitting.

493

:

I'm like, are you

staying all up all night?

494

:

Are you breastfeeding?

495

:

What is happening?

496

:

Shaun: Yes, it takes a village.

497

:

Carissa: We went from going to

the casino every weekend to,

498

:

I've seen her once in two months.

499

:

Peter: Why is that though?

500

:

Is she literally just babysitting

or is it sounds like she's

501

:

sympathizing with her sister?

502

:

Carissa: I think so.

503

:

She is babysitting, she does

help out with the kids a lot.

504

:

She has a lot of nieces and

nephews and I know she loves

505

:

spending time with them too.

506

:

But it's okay.

507

:

You can come outside.

508

:

Your sister will be okay with her baby.

509

:

This is her sister's third child too.

510

:

So it's not like it's new.

511

:

Oh yeah.

512

:

Peter: No.

513

:

So she is just exhausted by living

vicariously through her sister,

514

:

Carissa: I guess so.

515

:

Peter: That's terrible.

516

:

It's funny

517

:

' Carissa: cause I actually

texted her on Friday and I was

518

:

like, Hey, we should hang out.

519

:

We should do something.

520

:

Have yet to hear back.

521

:

She was probably breastfeeding.

522

:

Shaun: Oh my god.

523

:

Good dog, girl.

524

:

Get a grip.

525

:

Peter: I know that.

526

:

That's really a thing though.

527

:

You can start lactating

when there's a baby around.

528

:

So women, fucking

529

:

Carissa: way Women.

530

:

Yes.

531

:

I'm staying away from them all.

532

:

I do not wanna lactate.

533

:

Mm-hmm.

534

:

Peter: Apparently if the mother

dies or something and there's

535

:

another woman around, they can

start lactating to feed the baby.

536

:

Yeah.

537

:

Carissa: I have no words.

538

:

None.

539

:

Stay the fuck away from me.

540

:

That's it.

541

:

Done.

542

:

Peter: Keep your damn baby.

543

:

Carissa: You can keep

your baby all the way.

544

:

The fuck over there.

545

:

All set.

546

:

I don't want my tits

leaking around the city.

547

:

I'm good.

548

:

Peter: That happened on a

show that we watched too.

549

:

The one with the scars guard

guy and what's her name?

550

:

F kay Jansen, whatever her name is.

551

:

The one originally on X-Men.

552

:

Yeah, yeah.

553

:

It's funk something.

554

:

I'm gonna get it wrong.

555

:

He Hemlock

556

:

Shaun: Grove.

557

:

Peter: Yeah, hemlock Grove.

558

:

They had a baby in Hemlock Grove or is

a, in the show, and there was a girl that

559

:

they brought into the house and there

was no mom around to help raise the baby.

560

:

So the woman that they brought, the

girl they brought into the house,

561

:

started lactating and feeding the baby.

562

:

Carissa: That's fucking weird.

563

:

Peter: Yes, it is.

564

:

That was a very weird show.

565

:

I don't like it.

566

:

Yeah, it was very strange.

567

:

Carissa: And you know that we were

just talking about this on another

568

:

episode we just did, about how people

some of the well movies or shows

569

:

are based off of real life events.

570

:

So do you think this actually

happened in real life?

571

:

Peter: Yeah, it's possible,

but he was I don't

572

:

Carissa: like it.

573

:

Peter: One of the guys that was

living in the house was a werewolf,

574

:

so I don't think it was that

575

:

Carissa: he probably could have

been a werewolf in real life.

576

:

It's a real story.

577

:

I'm going, I'm sticking to it.

578

:

Peter: By the way, the the technical

term for it, when you're feeling

579

:

sympathy for somebody else is called

secondhand achievement syndrome.

580

:

It's like secondhand

smoking for achievements.

581

:

Carissa: I don't like it.

582

:

Peter: It must be really exhausting

to curate your entire existence

583

:

based around somebody else's.

584

:

Achievement though.

585

:

Shaun: It's having sympathy for

someone really like an achievement.

586

:

I don't know.

587

:

It's just so strange to me.

588

:

Mm.

589

:

Carissa: I don't think

that's an achievement at all.

590

:

Shaun: I guess it's like

a growth as a person.

591

:

Peter: You're making it sound like a wart.

592

:

Okay.

593

:

Not a growth, it's

594

:

Shaun: Growth as a person.

595

:

But I don't know.

596

:

I feel like we should have sympathy.

597

:

Yeah.

598

:

I'm getting, I'm spiraling.

599

:

I can't, I don't even know

what I'm trying to say.

600

:

And emotional tumor.

601

:

Peter: Pretty much an ingrown twin.

602

:

Carissa: An ingrown hair

603

:

Peter: on your twin's head.

604

:

Yes.

605

:

In your body.

606

:

Just random on that.

607

:

I just read a story about the

longest living conjoin twins.

608

:

And there were two men that

were conjoined at the pelvis.

609

:

Oh, oh,

610

:

Carissa: yes.

611

:

I heard about this.

612

:

Okay, go ahead.

613

:

Sorry.

614

:

Peter: No, no worries.

615

:

So they had to use the same sexual organ.

616

:

They died virgins, by the way.

617

:

But one of them was gay and

one of them was straight.

618

:

Well,

619

:

Shaun: I can see why they died virgins.

620

:

Peter: Yeah.

621

:

Because neither one of them wanted,

so one of the brothers, a straight

622

:

one controlled the penis on the body.

623

:

He was the only one that could get erect.

624

:

And he was like, absolutely not.

625

:

And they only had one asshole.

626

:

So they didn't wanna share either side.

627

:

Carissa: That sounds miserable.

628

:

Peter: Yeah, it does.

629

:

Wow.

630

:

So they died virgins.

631

:

Carissa: Wow.

632

:

I'm, how old were they?

633

:

Yeah, I can't,

634

:

Peter: I, I think, I wanna say

they were 67 when they died.

635

:

Carissa: That's fucking miserable.

636

:

Peter: It was either 57 or 67, but

I just, I had read about that and

637

:

I was like, I can see how this is

a conflict of interest, I guess.

638

:

Right.

639

:

For lack of better terms.

640

:

Yeah.

641

:

But it was very weird to conjoined

twins are so interesting.

642

:

I always wonder if one controls

one body part, but now I know,

643

:

Shaun: well, here is what I

have to say about this story.

644

:

It, I feel like that's a prime

example of being gay is not a choice.

645

:

That guy would not have chosen to never be

able to have sex because he just wanted to

646

:

do it with another man when his conjoined

brother was not interested like it did.

647

:

I know it's not a choice.

648

:

You are either straight or

you are gay, or you are bi or

649

:

you are pan whatever you are.

650

:

You're not just, you don't.

651

:

Change into something else.

652

:

Carissa: Right?

653

:

Yeah, I

654

:

Shaun: agree.

655

:

That's

656

:

Carissa: a good point.

657

:

I like that you brought that up.

658

:

Peter: Oh, thanks.

659

:

It was very random.

660

:

I know.

661

:

But it also leads me to people

that are vicariously living through

662

:

others' experiences on social media.

663

:

Yeah.

664

:

I, we've talked about this before in

previous episodes, but people that

665

:

have FOMO essentially, and they're

like, keep following a specific person

666

:

to see what they're gonna do next.

667

:

And they're like, oh my God,

okay, so we have a friend.

668

:

She was living vicariously through

us when we were in Puerto Rico.

669

:

We were telling her what we were

doing and she was going out to.

670

:

Do the same thing but in her variation

of where she was, it was very funny.

671

:

Oh

672

:

Carissa: yeah.

673

:

That was funny.

674

:

Yeah.

675

:

When she talked about how she was

gonna, oh, you guys are going hiking.

676

:

Wonderful.

677

:

I'm gonna go take my other half

and have her drive me up to Green

678

:

Hill Park so we can hike as well.

679

:

Peter: Oh, you guys

are at the beach today.

680

:

She said something funny with that too.

681

:

Shaun: Something about sitting in

the yard and being fan or something.

682

:

Peter: Yes.

683

:

Shaun: She was gonna make her girlfriend

684

:

Peter: fan with a palm fron.

685

:

Carissa: I like it.

686

:

Peter: People do this all the time.

687

:

They they wait for content to

come out from their favorite

688

:

creators and then they mimic it.

689

:

Shaun: Yeah.

690

:

Carissa: Yeah.

691

:

Peter: It's not just like what

she did, but they actually like.

692

:

Go to the extent of either painting

their walls or buying the whole

693

:

backdrop of where the person is and

pretending they're having lunch in Paris.

694

:

Yeah.

695

:

It's a thing a lot of people are doing.

696

:

This is weird.

697

:

Shaun: On that, I have a question.

698

:

Do you think that truly is imitation

is the highest form of flattery?

699

:

Or do you think it's like stalker?

700

:

Yeah.

701

:

Or obnoxious or just cringe?

702

:

I don't know.

703

:

Peter: For me it's cringe.

704

:

Carissa: Yeah.

705

:

It's fucking weird.

706

:

Do your own shit.

707

:

Yeah.

708

:

I

709

:

Peter: agree.

710

:

Because we knew our other friend and

they were doing it just jokingly.

711

:

It's fine.

712

:

Shaun: Yeah.

713

:

Yeah.

714

:

The way she was doing it, that was funny.

715

:

Peter: But when you go to the extent to

do the same thing , the person you don't

716

:

even know and you just follow them online

and then you, oh my god, they're so nice.

717

:

I love them.

718

:

You've never met the fucking person.

719

:

Shaun: Yeah.

720

:

Peter: You're doing everything.

721

:

You have their a card like cardboard

cutout of their significant other

722

:

and you're having a date with them.

723

:

Oh my God.

724

:

With the fake backdrops.

725

:

It's very baby reindeer.

726

:

Shaun: That was such

727

:

Carissa: a good show.

728

:

Oh, that was such a good show.

729

:

That poor fucking guy.

730

:

Peter: Did you see the new one,

like the actual lady when she

731

:

did the, what do you call it?

732

:

Didn't we watch something about that?

733

:

She

734

:

Carissa: did an interview

after the show came out.

735

:

Right.

736

:

And she was trying to express

how she wasn't really, how

737

:

they portrayed her to be.

738

:

She made herself seem

739

:

Shaun: even crazier than the show did.

740

:

Peter: Yeah.

741

:

Carissa: Yeah.

742

:

She was a nutbag.

743

:

Peter: She was like, I

didn't send that many emails.

744

:

It was a few.

745

:

I didn't send them,

746

:

Carissa: I didn't send 967.

747

:

I just sent 954.

748

:

Actually,

749

:

Peter: girl, she said it wasn't that many.

750

:

She said it wasn't even that high.

751

:

She only sent a couple, but they

literally have the whole email thing.

752

:

He filed the complaint against

her saying she was a stalker.

753

:

Carissa: Right.

754

:

And he had every single email

755

:

Shaun: in the complaint.

756

:

Yeah.

757

:

Those are public records, aren't they?

758

:

Yeah.

759

:

Yeah.

760

:

Carissa: I actually wanna know

what psychologically goes wrong

761

:

in somebody's brain where they

think something like that is okay.

762

:

Peter: Yeah.

763

:

Shaun: I don't know.

764

:

I do too though, because I have seen

people in situations in real life

765

:

where it's like, what are you doing?

766

:

Why this person is being rude to

you and you are pursuing them still,

767

:

and not like in the sense of you

have a toxic significant other.

768

:

I'm saying someone is blatantly

like not interested and you

769

:

are just still full on trying,

770

:

Peter: right?

771

:

Yeah.

772

:

I don't know.

773

:

Do you think it's from trauma

in their past or do you just

774

:

Carissa: It's an attachment issue?

775

:

I think if somebody, maybe, yeah,

it could be trauma from their past.

776

:

Maybe somebody growing up wasn't nice

to them and they felt like they were

777

:

mistreated or bullied all the time.

778

:

And then the one person in their

adult life that's nice to them,

779

:

they just grow attached to,

780

:

Peter: they latch onto,

781

:

Carissa: yeah.

782

:

Peter: Yeah.

783

:

I show them a kindness and then

they become obsessed with them.

784

:

I guess I could see that.

785

:

I don't think somebody very

786

:

Carissa: single white female.

787

:

Yes.

788

:

Peter: I don't know that I buy that.

789

:

Every single person has a

defining moment when they snap.

790

:

I think a lot of people

can be born that way too.

791

:

It's just something triggers it.

792

:

Yeah.

793

:

Yeah.

794

:

Carissa: I agree.

795

:

Peter: Because we sa you saw,

if you watch like the Dahmer

796

:

shows, he was always fucked.

797

:

That kid was always fucked up.

798

:

Carissa: He was fucked

from the very beginning.

799

:

Peter: Yeah.

800

:

Carissa: It's sad.

801

:

It's very sad.

802

:

Peter: It is.

803

:

And he was like, what Dr.

804

:

He put the tadpoles in the thing of oil.

805

:

Carissa: Yeah,

806

:

Peter: that's fucked up the kid.

807

:

So psychologically he just was not there.

808

:

Carissa: No, I actually had

nightmares from that show as an

809

:

adult, which is pretty awful.

810

:

But I guess that shows that I'm normal.

811

:

Yeah,

812

:

Peter: you have to have feelings

about that stuff and you should

813

:

have strong feelings about it, but

which way it goes is up to you.

814

:

Shaun: Right.

815

:

Yeah.

816

:

Peter: I thought I knew about Dahmer.

817

:

I think everybody knew about Dahmer, but

I didn't know that happened in Wisconsin.

818

:

Shaun: Yeah, I didn't know

where it had happened.

819

:

I just knew of it.

820

:

Carissa: Yeah.

821

:

I didn't know where it

had happened either.

822

:

I knew of it.

823

:

I also didn't know the extent of it

until I watched that, which is sick.

824

:

Peter: It was bad.

825

:

Milwaukee is where it happened, I

believe, but they had an another one.

826

:

I don't know if his.

827

:

If it was in Milwaukee.

828

:

Was John Wayne Gacy in Milwaukee too?

829

:

Carissa: I don't remember where he was.

830

:

But he was sick too.

831

:

Peter: Yeah.

832

:

All the bodies buried.

833

:

Buried under his house.

834

:

Carissa: Yep.

835

:

And he dressed like a clown.

836

:

Peter: Yeah.

837

:

Carissa: To lure the kids in.

838

:

He

839

:

Peter: was in, well, not to lure in,

he was a clown at their birthdays.

840

:

Carissa: Yeah,

841

:

Peter: that's just sick.

842

:

Anyway, we went, this took

843

:

Carissa: a fucking turn.

844

:

Peter: Yeah, we went

completely off topic here.

845

:

So also I just want to talk about

how every conversation nowadays,

846

:

to me at least, sounds like it's

performed for an invisible audience.

847

:

Everything seems like performative now,

especially with the younger generation.

848

:

Carissa: I would, I could say that for

some of the people that are putting

849

:

out their content on social media,

for sure, it looks scripted or fake.

850

:

Remember how when we were kids, we would

watch America's Funniest Home Videos?

851

:

Peter: Yeah.

852

:

Carissa: And that some of them

were like actual things happening,

853

:

and then it became after

years, it became performative.

854

:

Yeah.

855

:

That's what's happening

now in social media.

856

:

Peter: But I feel like also people

are trying to make their lives seem

857

:

more important or to feel, make

somebody feel some sense of fomo

858

:

even when they don't know them.

859

:

Right.

860

:

But yeah, I feel like every conversation

is to make somebody feel some sort

861

:

of way, even when no one's there.

862

:

It's like they're practicing

to piss people off.

863

:

Carissa: Yeah.

864

:

Peter: I don't know about you, Shaun.

865

:

Shaun: Yeah, I agree.

866

:

I think that there's just a lot of.

867

:

People, like you said, trying

to paint this picture of who

868

:

they want other people to see.

869

:

Mm-hmm.

870

:

And not let any of the other sides show.

871

:

We as a society have gotten to a point

where you do one thing wrong or one

872

:

thing that people don't like, and it's

oh, that's the end of your career,

873

:

the end of anything you've ever done.

874

:

So people are always walking on eggshells.

875

:

I think people need to be

able to just be themselves.

876

:

Yeah.

877

:

People need to be held accountable when

they make mistakes, but God, people

878

:

stop with the cancellation of every

single person for every little thing.

879

:

This is getting out of hand.

880

:

Peter: The cancel culture

is just out of hand.

881

:

It's so stupid.

882

:

You can't cancel someone.

883

:

It's just a joke now.

884

:

It's a joke.

885

:

The only person that's been

canceled is Katy Perry.

886

:

And for obvious reasons, the twerking.

887

:

That's why.

888

:

Oh

889

:

Shaun: God.

890

:

Peter: The reason I bring this up

is because when we were at breakfast

891

:

the other day, we had this woman

that was sitting behind mom and dad.

892

:

And they were so loud.

893

:

She was so loud, and she was

talking about absolute nonsense.

894

:

Do you remember who I'm talking about?

895

:

Shaun: Yeah.

896

:

It was like, oh, and the yard, it's

been landscaped and the kids love

897

:

it, and now it looks like a yard.

898

:

And we painted these rocks and what

the fuck are you talking about?

899

:

Peter: And then she's like trying to

give her friend advice very loudly,

900

:

trying to give her friend advice about

painting rocks and planting flowers in

901

:

a certain place, and how much she paid

for all these flowers and these rock.

902

:

These boulders.

903

:

She paid for these boulders.

904

:

Carissa: I'm surprised her friend

didn't just walk out of the breakfast.

905

:

Peter: Oh no.

906

:

They were feeding into her bullshit.

907

:

Shaun: Oh, they were loving it.

908

:

Carissa: Oh my.

909

:

What is wrong with people?

910

:

Shaun: They were white.

911

:

I'm just kidding.

912

:

It's not.

913

:

But they were white

914

:

Peter: and then they're sitting

there talking about how they're

915

:

Italian so they can be loud.

916

:

And I'm guessing their friends

were trying to shush them.

917

:

But yeah, she was talking

about fucking rocks.

918

:

Carissa: Rocks.

919

:

You have to paint them a certain way.

920

:

Apparently.

921

:

I didn't know that.

922

:

Peter: Yes, you have to sit on

it, do a oga, booga, booga on the

923

:

rock, paint it from front to back.

924

:

It sounds dirty.

925

:

Yes,

926

:

Shaun: it was bad.

927

:

It'd be dirty if you do

it from back to front.

928

:

Peter: Crot rock.

929

:

Yes.

930

:

It just doesn't, it didn't

come off as authentic.

931

:

It came off as she was performing

for everybody else, but it wasn't

932

:

even a subject that was interesting.

933

:

She was just talking about her,

how her garden was in bloom.

934

:

Carissa: Just be yourself.

935

:

What the fuck.

936

:

Peter: Right.

937

:

And she was an older lady too.

938

:

Maybe

939

:

Carissa: she was being herself.

940

:

Peter: Yeah, maybe she

was, her personality sucks.

941

:

Right?

942

:

She's just

943

:

Carissa: a terrible person.

944

:

Yeah.

945

:

Not my friend.

946

:

Peter: But it also leads to how

people make these obscene purchases

947

:

that they don't need and they just

share it with the world or they

948

:

just buy it to say they have it.

949

:

But that's also I feel

performative to an extent.

950

:

Some people just like what they like.

951

:

But have either one of you made a

purchase recently that you not necessarily

952

:

regret, but you didn't necessarily need?

953

:

Shaun: Oh, definitely.

954

:

I bought myself a new vape that looks

like a little like robot character.

955

:

I did not need it.

956

:

I sort of did if I wanted to smoke.

957

:

The five 10 threaded ones, but either way

958

:

Carissa: it's very cute.

959

:

I like it.

960

:

Shaun: Thanks.

961

:

It looks like a little strawberry.

962

:

Carissa: It looks like a little astronaut.

963

:

A little

964

:

Peter: strawberry robot, man.

965

:

Yeah.

966

:

How about you, Carissa?

967

:

You get a little

strawberry robot man, too.

968

:

Carissa: No, I was just thinking,

I actually haven't bought anything

969

:

recently that I don't need.

970

:

I have been thinking about a tv.

971

:

I don't need a tv, but I really

have been thinking about it.

972

:

Especially when you tried to move it

earlier and you said how heavy it was.

973

:

I bought my TV in 2017.

974

:

It's a 55 inch lg, but yeah, we couldn't

mount it on the wall in my apartment,

975

:

so I guess maybe it is time to invest in

976

:

Peter: a new tv.

977

:

It was heavy.

978

:

It's really heavy.

979

:

Carissa: It's extremely heavy.

980

:

Peter: I'm not trying to be an asshole.

981

:

Carissa: I guess I should buy a TV then.

982

:

Peter: Yep.

983

:

Carissa, you just gave

me an excuse, has fomo.

984

:

Carissa: You gave me

an excuse to buy a tv.

985

:

Peter: She has fomo.

986

:

'cause she comes down to our room

and the TV takes up the whole wall.

987

:

Carissa: Yeah.

988

:

I feel like I'm in the movie

theater when I go into your room.

989

:

I like it.

990

:

Peter: It wasn't meant to give people

fomo, it was just that we wanted a

991

:

bigger TV because we actually had

space or said bigger TV at the time.

992

:

Yeah, big

993

:

Carissa: TVs are nice.

994

:

I could fit one on my wall here.

995

:

Peter: If we mounted the one that

we have on the wall, it would

996

:

take out mom and dad's room.

997

:

The whole house would collapse.

998

:

The whole house

999

:

Carissa: would go down.

:

00:36:11,904 --> 00:36:12,404

That's it.

:

00:36:13,714 --> 00:36:14,644

We'd be in the basement.

:

00:36:15,644 --> 00:36:16,524

Peter: I just, yeah.

:

00:36:16,804 --> 00:36:19,164

I think that people are making

these purchases they don't

:

00:36:19,164 --> 00:36:21,814

necessarily need, but I don't know.

:

00:36:21,854 --> 00:36:24,254

I don't think I've ever, I

made one recently that I.

:

00:36:25,254 --> 00:36:29,184

I got mom and dad pre present or we

got mom and dad presents for that

:

00:36:29,184 --> 00:36:30,744

doesn't count for staying here.

:

00:36:30,844 --> 00:36:32,744

We don't necessarily, doesn't

count necessarily need them.

:

00:36:34,234 --> 00:36:35,194

Carissa: I need a TV now.

:

00:36:36,224 --> 00:36:37,634

Peter: Well, I'm not getting you a tv.

:

00:36:38,434 --> 00:36:40,914

Carissa: I might need a new

video game too for my PS five.

:

00:36:40,914 --> 00:36:42,154

I'll have to look into that as well.

:

00:36:42,974 --> 00:36:43,274

I's I

:

00:36:43,554 --> 00:36:46,594

Shaun: bought you birthday gifts, but that

doesn't count 'cause it was your birthday.

:

00:36:47,374 --> 00:36:50,114

Peter: But does it mean

that we should regret it?

:

00:36:50,674 --> 00:36:54,834

I feel like people have some

shame about keeping things that

:

00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:57,034

they retail therapy purchase.

:

00:36:57,474 --> 00:36:58,514

Carissa: I love retail therapy.

:

00:36:59,994 --> 00:37:00,754

I live for it.

:

00:37:01,674 --> 00:37:03,114

Shaun: I don't think we

should feel shame about it.

:

00:37:03,434 --> 00:37:05,884

I think we all deserve something nice.

:

00:37:05,884 --> 00:37:06,604

Every now and then

:

00:37:07,104 --> 00:37:10,604

Carissa: as you stare at the 56 pairs

of sneakers lined up on my wall.

:

00:37:11,644 --> 00:37:11,844

I was

:

00:37:11,844 --> 00:37:14,284

Shaun: saying earlier it smells

like a shoe store in here.

:

00:37:14,424 --> 00:37:16,724

Not, and then I said, that sounds

bad, but I don't mean in a bad way.

:

00:37:16,964 --> 00:37:19,124

I smell like the leather

from the new shoes.

:

00:37:20,124 --> 00:37:23,184

And that's like the same smell that

I get when I walk into a Foot Locker

:

00:37:23,724 --> 00:37:28,354

or store or like a I'm trying to

think of the name of other journeys.

:

00:37:28,354 --> 00:37:31,474

Something like that where you can

smell the leather from the shoes.

:

00:37:32,354 --> 00:37:35,674

Carissa: I, I said when I was a kid

that I was gonna have a shoe store.

:

00:37:36,114 --> 00:37:39,794

I have a shoe store where I can pick any

pair of shoes that I want and put 'em on.

:

00:37:41,174 --> 00:37:44,994

Peter: But the fact that it smells

like a shoe store in here, that all

:

00:37:44,994 --> 00:37:48,514

of these shoes are basically in little

hyperbaric chambers on your wall.

:

00:37:49,494 --> 00:37:50,634

Shaun: And they all look like new.

:

00:37:50,864 --> 00:37:51,154

Peter: Yeah.

:

00:37:51,694 --> 00:37:52,434

You don't wear them.

:

00:37:53,274 --> 00:37:53,834

I do though.

:

00:37:54,614 --> 00:37:57,834

You buy them to look at on the wall for

:

00:37:57,834 --> 00:37:58,194

Carissa: the most part.

:

00:37:58,304 --> 00:37:59,774

I think there's 10 pairs that I wear,

:

00:38:00,894 --> 00:38:01,994

Peter: but they're all Jordans.

:

00:38:02,504 --> 00:38:04,114

Carissa: They are, but

they're all different.

:

00:38:04,114 --> 00:38:05,274

They're all retros.

:

00:38:05,424 --> 00:38:08,024

They're throwbacks, they're collectibles.

:

00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:09,024

You're not supposed to wear them.

:

00:38:09,284 --> 00:38:11,824

Peter: The amount of money on your

wall is definitely throwing you back.

:

00:38:12,144 --> 00:38:12,264

I

:

00:38:12,264 --> 00:38:15,454

Carissa: think the amount of money

on my wall is, it probably costs more

:

00:38:15,454 --> 00:38:16,974

than tattoos on my arms, to be honest.

:

00:38:18,194 --> 00:38:21,534

Peter: So you remember everyone,

remember when you watched Step Up too?

:

00:38:21,724 --> 00:38:26,894

When she goes to join the dance crew

and they live in like a rundown loft?

:

00:38:27,944 --> 00:38:28,164

Carissa: Yes.

:

00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:28,764

Yeah.

:

00:38:29,154 --> 00:38:30,404

Peter: Carissa has the shoe wall.

:

00:38:30,684 --> 00:38:30,884

I do.

:

00:38:31,364 --> 00:38:31,444

Yep.

:

00:38:31,464 --> 00:38:32,664

Carissa: That's exactly what I have.

:

00:38:33,664 --> 00:38:36,554

Peter: At least it's authentically

you, you wanted all these shoes and

:

00:38:36,554 --> 00:38:41,194

you got them and they are locked

away and they're little airtight

:

00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:43,234

chambers and you don't wear them.

:

00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:46,714

Carissa: I do wear them now that

the reason I got the airtight

:

00:38:46,714 --> 00:38:48,594

chambers is so I could see them.

:

00:38:48,934 --> 00:38:50,794

So I could pick what I wanna wear.

:

00:38:50,854 --> 00:38:53,114

So essentially what I do every

day, and you guys are gonna laugh.

:

00:38:53,114 --> 00:38:54,914

I don't do this to go to

work 'cause go to go to work.

:

00:38:54,954 --> 00:38:58,374

I wear the same pair of shoes

every day, which also is gross.

:

00:38:58,434 --> 00:38:59,974

But anyway, that's besides the point.

:

00:39:00,974 --> 00:39:05,154

But any day that I'm gonna

go out somewhere, I say, hmm.

:

00:39:05,614 --> 00:39:09,354

And I look at my shoe wall and I go,

which one of these do I wanna wear?

:

00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,569

Then I pick out the pair that I

wanna wear and I create an outfit

:

00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:14,889

and it's a beautiful thing.

:

00:39:15,429 --> 00:39:17,809

And maybe I don't wear that outfit

again for another six months.

:

00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:19,249

That's why they still look new.

:

00:39:20,249 --> 00:39:24,309

Peter: She just wears the same

shoes again and again to work.

:

00:39:25,059 --> 00:39:25,349

Well,

:

00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:27,989

Carissa: yeah, because I teach

fitness, which everybody knows now,

:

00:39:28,009 --> 00:39:29,629

and I don't care about those shoes.

:

00:39:30,189 --> 00:39:31,509

I fuck 'em up in the fitness center.

:

00:39:33,009 --> 00:39:34,249

Peter: I'm just looking at your wall.

:

00:39:34,309 --> 00:39:36,069

You have six pairs of

shoes that are yellow.

:

00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:37,509

They're not even all in the same row.

:

00:39:38,479 --> 00:39:41,699

Carissa: Listen, I wasn't

getting that OCD about them.

:

00:39:41,809 --> 00:39:42,099

Okay.

:

00:39:42,499 --> 00:39:45,139

I do have a lot of yellow and I

don't even wear very much yellow.

:

00:39:46,479 --> 00:39:50,739

Peter: See, you bought them to

look at some of those were gifts.

:

00:39:51,739 --> 00:39:52,829

It's an expensive gift.

:

00:39:53,419 --> 00:39:54,269

Carissa: Yeah, they're good gifts.

:

00:39:54,389 --> 00:39:54,829

I like them.

:

00:39:55,649 --> 00:39:56,109

Peter: But yeah.

:

00:39:56,309 --> 00:39:58,999

Speaking of your work, oh, what I do?

:

00:39:59,299 --> 00:40:03,389

Oh, not necessarily you speaking

of work in general, Shaun has, some

:

00:40:03,479 --> 00:40:05,429

drama that happened at work recently.

:

00:40:05,499 --> 00:40:06,749

Someone got fired.

:

00:40:07,419 --> 00:40:07,709

Shaun: Yeah.

:

00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:09,389

So it is just, it was so stupid.

:

00:40:09,579 --> 00:40:18,559

Someone, one of the account directors

at my job who specialized in SEO gave

:

00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:24,559

their notice and then the, my coworker

who did SEO stuff and then also helped

:

00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:26,599

me with social media got let go.

:

00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:34,349

Which is ridiculous because what

they did was not just specific to

:

00:40:34,349 --> 00:40:35,349

that person that gave their notice.

:

00:40:35,819 --> 00:40:37,469

They go to a cold play concert.

:

00:40:38,469 --> 00:40:40,969

No, they didn't go to a Coldplay

concert to my knowledge.

:

00:40:41,229 --> 00:40:43,489

But maybe they should have.

:

00:40:44,489 --> 00:40:46,219

Peter: So they quit?

:

00:40:47,399 --> 00:40:48,579

Shaun: No, they got fired.

:

00:40:49,579 --> 00:40:49,869

Peter: Okay.

:

00:40:49,869 --> 00:40:51,429

But they got fired 'cause their boss quit,

:

00:40:52,169 --> 00:40:53,149

Shaun: wasn't even their boss.

:

00:40:53,169 --> 00:40:55,229

It was just the other

person that like worked.

:

00:40:56,344 --> 00:41:01,954

On SEO stuff and it,

yeah, it was just messy.

:

00:41:02,134 --> 00:41:03,074

My boss was pissed.

:

00:41:04,564 --> 00:41:06,144

It was just not a good situation.

:

00:41:07,024 --> 00:41:08,464

Peter: I just don't know

how that even works.

:

00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:09,744

That mean my workload

:

00:41:09,764 --> 00:41:10,544

Shaun: has been doubled.

:

00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,494

Which is why I think it's stupid

because it's not like this person

:

00:41:14,554 --> 00:41:16,494

didn't have any other work.

:

00:41:17,044 --> 00:41:23,354

They, there was enough work with

what I do and what they were helping

:

00:41:23,374 --> 00:41:26,674

me with for, to sustain their role.

:

00:41:27,484 --> 00:41:30,984

It didn't make sense to let them

go just because somebody else left.

:

00:41:31,854 --> 00:41:32,144

Peter: Yeah.

:

00:41:32,144 --> 00:41:35,104

But I feel like that's late

stage capitalism at its finest.

:

00:41:35,104 --> 00:41:40,544

Someone quits an other person who can do

the job, gets all of the responsibilities.

:

00:41:41,379 --> 00:41:45,219

They can't handle it and then they

get fired for like performance issues.

:

00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,179

Shaun: But I wasn't even saying

is this my future for them?

:

00:41:49,499 --> 00:41:52,879

I wasn't even saying for them to take

on the other person's responsibilities.

:

00:41:53,189 --> 00:41:56,119

That section of the company,

I should have led with that.

:

00:41:56,189 --> 00:41:59,139

That part of the company

is being like axed.

:

00:41:59,389 --> 00:42:01,699

We're not gonna have that

service that we offered anymore.

:

00:42:02,279 --> 00:42:10,119

But even so, my coworker had enough to

do with what they were helping me with

:

00:42:10,269 --> 00:42:11,999

that it would've filled up their day.

:

00:42:11,999 --> 00:42:14,119

Like it didn't matter if the

other stuff that they were doing

:

00:42:14,139 --> 00:42:15,919

was not gonna be offered anymore.

:

00:42:17,149 --> 00:42:17,439

Okay,

:

00:42:17,759 --> 00:42:18,119

Peter: I see.

:

00:42:19,189 --> 00:42:24,369

But also on Carissa's side here,

I know that you're having to

:

00:42:24,369 --> 00:42:26,769

deal with the workload increases.

:

00:42:27,739 --> 00:42:28,569

Throw the pool out.

:

00:42:28,809 --> 00:42:29,769

I don't want the pool anymore.

:

00:42:29,999 --> 00:42:30,529

Carissa: Sick of it.

:

00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:35,969

Peter: She just wants to turn the pool,

like piss and shit in the pool and leave.

:

00:42:36,049 --> 00:42:36,499

Shut it down.

:

00:42:37,489 --> 00:42:37,859

Shut it

:

00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:37,979

Carissa: down.

:

00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:38,579

I'm over it.

:

00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,859

No, on, I was the, I'm the backup on

the pool and the main person quit.

:

00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:46,739

He just up and left and

didn't tell anybody.

:

00:42:47,439 --> 00:42:51,889

And this was, I wanna say, two or

three months ago, something like that.

:

00:42:52,149 --> 00:42:55,089

It could only be a month, but

it's been longer than a month.

:

00:42:55,189 --> 00:42:58,169

But anyway, I've been the main

point person for the pool and

:

00:42:58,489 --> 00:42:59,569

honestly, I'm fed up with it.

:

00:42:59,829 --> 00:43:03,089

And we've had lots of meetings

about who's gonna do what.

:

00:43:03,149 --> 00:43:04,609

And it's not my boss's fault.

:

00:43:04,939 --> 00:43:09,609

She's doing the best that she can, but

they're just casually taking their time,

:

00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:14,849

replacing a maintenance person to do the

pool, which is unfair to me and my team.

:

00:43:15,549 --> 00:43:18,829

Peter: But when people do stuff like that

and they delegate work responsibilities

:

00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:23,309

or increase someone else's workload, don't

you think that affects people creatively?

:

00:43:23,469 --> 00:43:23,869

I don't know if.

:

00:43:24,409 --> 00:43:28,059

Carissa: Yeah, I'm actually struggling

now 'cause I teach group fitness and

:

00:43:28,059 --> 00:43:31,789

that's what I was hired to do and I'm

struggling with my creativity and coming

:

00:43:31,789 --> 00:43:36,149

up with new ideas for my classes or

even wanting to, for that matter because

:

00:43:36,529 --> 00:43:38,029

I'm so overwhelmed with the pool stuff.

:

00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:40,339

Peter: How about you Shaun?

:

00:43:41,479 --> 00:43:41,839

Shaun: I agree.

:

00:43:41,999 --> 00:43:47,839

I think that it definitely

can stifle creativity when you

:

00:43:47,899 --> 00:43:49,199

get overloaded with things.

:

00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,199

I know that in my role I, with

social media, things are constantly

:

00:43:55,479 --> 00:43:58,599

evolving, so I constantly have to

change my approach to certain things.

:

00:43:59,259 --> 00:44:05,759

And it's hard to go back and rework

our process without the time or even

:

00:44:05,909 --> 00:44:11,559

like the bandwidth in your brain to, to

think about those things and not just

:

00:44:11,579 --> 00:44:13,279

do the same process over and over again.

:

00:44:13,699 --> 00:44:17,839

It, you get kind of get stuck in

like a repetitive motion of just

:

00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:19,469

going through the motions and.

:

00:44:20,469 --> 00:44:24,239

It's hard to break out of that, especially

when you have so much on your plate.

:

00:44:24,469 --> 00:44:26,519

Carissa: Yeah, that's

exactly how I'm feeling.

:

00:44:26,579 --> 00:44:27,679

So I can totally relate

:

00:44:28,379 --> 00:44:31,599

Peter: and creates exhaustion

and resentment for your job.

:

00:44:31,949 --> 00:44:33,039

Yeah, absolutely.

:

00:44:33,049 --> 00:44:33,399

Which

:

00:44:33,439 --> 00:44:34,399

Carissa: I don't want, I love fitness.

:

00:44:35,179 --> 00:44:39,389

Peter: But it makes you second guess

as to why you chose that or if you made

:

00:44:39,389 --> 00:44:40,789

the right decision going into that.

:

00:44:40,919 --> 00:44:41,269

Right.

:

00:44:41,269 --> 00:44:41,749

Is it not?

:

00:44:41,939 --> 00:44:42,749

Carissa: Yeah, for sure.

:

00:44:43,299 --> 00:44:43,589

Peter: Yeah.

:

00:44:44,889 --> 00:44:49,069

And then when you get home and you

wanna decompress, even that's fake now.

:

00:44:49,449 --> 00:44:51,029

So you're watching your doom scrolling.

:

00:44:51,029 --> 00:44:52,989

Has anyone seen the crazy AI songs?

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What the hell's that?

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Shaun: Yes.

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Those songs are insane.

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Peter: The country.

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Country Coer.

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She's munching on my country.

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Coer.

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Carissa: Oh, okay.

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Yeah, I've seen those.

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Those are good.

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I found one this morning.

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Shaun: The dog's got a whiff or something

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Peter: or something.

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Carissa: I found one this morning.

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Oh my god.

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I'll play it for you guys later.

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It's a good one.

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I actually really enjoyed it.

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Shaun: Or the, I'm not

gay, but I do gay stuff.

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Song.

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Yeah.

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They, he fucks the dudes

in the back of his trucks.

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Carissa: Yeah, I've heard that one too.

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Shaun: Then there's ones

about like diarrhea and stuff.

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Peter: Yeah.

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How is this helping me decompress?

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This is making me more stressed.

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Who the hell is gonna hear this?

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When you're out in public and

you're trying to decompress,

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Carissa: I think we should

just blast them in the car.

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Shaun: We're gonna make

one for our podcast.

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We're gonna figure it out.

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We're gonna make our own AI song

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Carissa: Yes.

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Make, we make our own playlist.

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Peter: And they're so

vulgar too, like wonderful.

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It's a beautiful thing.

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I think they're funny and private,

but it always comes on in the

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most inconvenient location.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's true.

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You're sitting across from a little kid

or something and their mom on the bus, you

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Shaun: swipe up and all of a sudden

I ain't gay, but a do gay stuff

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Carissa: or the, or at my job when

you're in the office eating lunch.

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Oh yeah.

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Peter: And you work with old

people, you're just gonna kill them.

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Yeah.

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So this

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Carissa: is why I bring

my headphones to work.

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Peter: I know, but sometimes

Have you guys had this when

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the headphones don't connect.

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Oh,

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Shaun: oh my god.

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Yeah.

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It pisses me off and it just plays like

as loud as possible through your speaker.

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Peter: Yeah.

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You got the jackass in the

corner that's listening to porn.

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Watching porn.

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Oh, while they, my God, while they're

sitting there eating their lunch.

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Or it, they're in the bathroom.

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They're watching porn and nobody seems

to realize this, but your shadow where

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you're jerking off is on the floor.

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You can see it.

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Carissa: That's gross.

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Do men do that?

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Yeah, all the time.

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Oh lord Jesus.

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You

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Peter: can see the shadow

of you jerking off.

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Look at the fucking floor.

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Oh my god.

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People are so stupid.

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Carissa: I didn't know that was a thing.

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Peter: Yeah.

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Women

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Carissa: don't do shit like this.

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Peter: They can't exactly rub

themselves in the bathroom, I

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would assume it takes too long.

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Shaun: So you wanna know a

funny thing, sorry about that.

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When I was in high school we were in

Spanish class once and a girl went to the

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bathroom and then another girl went to

the bathroom and she came back and the

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second girl came back in and she goes.

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So-and-so is in the bathroom doing

something you should not do at school.

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So everybody, every single person in the

class thought she was in there rubbing

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one out and no, she was taking a poop.

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Peter: Aw, poor

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Shaun: girl.

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Getting called out for taking a poop.

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Yeah.

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Peter: What the fuck?

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How are you not supposed

to do that at school?

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That's a toilet.

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You have a toilet.

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Right.

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Carissa: Fuck that girl

for going and saying that.

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Not nice.

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She's just trying to shit.

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I'm so upset for her.

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Peter: It's not like you go in, you see

a woman's shadow where they're rubbing

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themselves and that's, they come back

and What were you doing in there?

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Oh, I have a yeast infection.

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Oh my God.

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They're just applying some cream.

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Yes, exactly.

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In the same motion.

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Veggie cream burn hour.

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It's so bad.

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The, I just can't you see that?

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And then the worst part is too,

because guys, gay guys like to do

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this under stall thing where they have

sex with a person under their stall.

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Oh God.

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Have you ever seen that happen?

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Shaun: Happening?

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Yeah.

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Peter: Guys, I get the

allure of being in public.

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No, I really don't.

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I don't know why people do that.

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But why the fuck are you doing that?

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The people from Stonewall fought so they

didn't have to have sex in the back of

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the train yard and be publicly shamed.

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And you are literally doing

this around straight people

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and rubbing it in their face.

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Carissa: I guess it's a thrill.

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Peter: It's not thrilling to see your

ass pinned underneath the fucking stall

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when you need to blow ass into it.

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And all you hear is the

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Shaun: ooh, ooh.

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And you're like, really?

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I need to use the fucking

toilet ticket shit.

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And these fucking assholes are

packing shit into each other.

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Carissa: That's it.

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I'm leaving.

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I can't take it anymore.

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Peter: Speaking of harassment and

assault on the s how about all of these

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frigging bots that you're getting in

your dms that basically are trying to

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sell you porn or these explicit photos?

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You wanna be my friend?

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Carissa: Oh yeah.

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I don't like that.

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And they do it on Instagram all the time.

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Shaun: Instagram at Twitter, X,

whatever you're calling it nowadays,

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or calling itself, I don't know.

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Carissa: It's fucking Twitter.

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Dammit.

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How many times do I have to tell you this?

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Shaun: The we get so

many on our podcast page.

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It's hi, I'm just looking

for someone to get to know.

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You're looking in the wrong place.

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Yeah.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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What the fuck?

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Shaun: We don't mind getting

to know our fans, but come on.

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You're clearly not a fan.

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Carissa: No.

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That's far.

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We not paying you.

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We don't want your stupid content

or to get hacked or stop lying.

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Also, can we talk about

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Shaun: The ones that we,

I get this constantly.

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We get this constantly.

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Send me this post.

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Peter: Yeah.

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I'm gonna boost it for you.

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I can take you to number one.

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Shaun: Send you this post.

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You have this post.

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You just commented on it,

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Peter: right?

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Take it.

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I

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Shaun: don't have to send it anywhere.

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If you wanna promote it,

go write the fuck ahead.

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Carissa: Right?

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Take it and do it.

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Peter: Have you never just thrown the

VPN on so that you can and increase the

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firewall so you can respond to these?

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No.

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No.

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Can we do this?

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Never thought about that.

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Yes.

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Carissa: All right.

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After we finish recording,

we're gonna do this.

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Peter: You respond to them and they're

like, oh, there's live nude girls

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in your area, and it's whoa, bitch,

you're barking up the wrong tree.

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First off and second off in my area.

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It is hot as fuck and I don't

wanna see sweaty titties.

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Shaun: You know where that used

to happen on Grindr near us.

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Yeah.

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When we lived at the house.

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And I used to be, I would get a

thing like, hot guys ready near you.

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I'm like, you clearly

don't know where I am.

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Because

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Peter: there might be

like one gay in the town.

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Yeah.

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And if he's hot

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Shaun: and ready, chances

are I am not interested.

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If

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Peter: he's hot and ready, it just means

that he is been working all day outside or

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Carissa: he took a steaming shit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Peter: Not good.

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It means he's chafing.

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It's

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Carissa: just a bad time.

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Peter: But yeah, I think

that, those are crazy.

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The bots need to stop and

then they have 12 followers.

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So where it's not authentic.

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Where's this freaking, do people

actually click these damn things?

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Carissa: Yes, they do.

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You

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Peter: have to wonder.

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They keep doing it.

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So obviously it's some

sort of lucrative business.

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Maybe we're in the wrong business.

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Maybe.

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Maybe we should look into that.

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Carissa: It's probably

teenage kids, to be honest.

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Shaun: Listeners, if you have any

advice on how to get into the bot

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business, please send it our way.

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Peter: No, we're not really looking

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Shaun: for

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Peter: that.

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Carissa: Please don't send that.

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No, but do

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Shaun: or don't or

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Peter: do just do it.

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You won't.

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But it also, in that same breath we talk

about the young teens that are out there.

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TikTok is in a way, the fountain of youth.

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But is there anything that you guys

can think of that you think might have

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some sort of, whether it's a mystical

thing, a missing city, a missing scroll?

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Do you think there is some

sort of conspiracy that

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you think is actually true?

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Shaun: So many.

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I think the Epstein list is real.

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Peter: I think

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Shaun: everyone thinks that.

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Carissa: I think that there's

treasure under the ocean somewhere.

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Shaun: Yep.

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I think Atlantis is real.

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Carissa: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I was gonna say.

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Atlantis or even Blackbeard.

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Peter: Well, black

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Carissa: of.

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Yeah, but he's got fucking treasure

somewhere and I know it and I'm

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gonna fucking find it one day.

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Shaun: I think vampires are real,

just not in the way that they're

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depicted in like the media.

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They sparkle Not that way.

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No.

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Carissa: I think they eat people.

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Shaun: I think that it's more of a, that's

cannibals more of like an emotional drain.

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Like they drain people's energy.

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Life force type deal.

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Peter: If that's the case,

I know quite a few vampires.

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Carissa: I was gonna say I know them too.

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Peter: That reminds me of the show

in the Dark, what we do in the Dark.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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That's where my theory comes from.

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Peter: They have all different

kinds of vampires on their charisma.

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One of 'em is an emotional vampire.

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So he goes to court to watch these people

fight and get depressed and aggressive.

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And he just sits there as beating.

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00:53:41,614 --> 00:53:41,904

Well,

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Carissa: we, oh my God.

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He's an emotional vampire.

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Peter: And then he pisses all the other

vampires off in the house that are his

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roommates just to feed off of them.

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Carissa: Oh my God.

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That's funny.

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Shaun: So that show along with a picture

that I recently saw of Cher and Janet

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00:53:57,644 --> 00:54:02,324

Jackson from when Janet Jackson was young,

and Cher looks exactly the same now as

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00:54:02,324 --> 00:54:04,564

she did then, and Janet Jackson does not

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Carissa: Cher's a vampire.

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Yeah,

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Shaun: that's what, that's

where I was going with it.

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Yeah,

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Carissa: I agree.

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No, I could see that.

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Shaun: I think the plastic surgery

was just to try and cover up

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the fact that she's a vampire.

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She's very, to make you

think that she was aging.

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Carissa: She's very pale too.

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Hm.

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Peter: Yeah.

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In her age, the she was tan at one

point when she was sunny and Cher.

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Wow.

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That was

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Shaun: before she was a vampire.

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Yeah.

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Peter: She did that and then the

teeth automatically became perfect

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and she just never aged from there.

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Just like Selma Hayek.

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Shaun: Yes.

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She's another one.

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00:54:37,284 --> 00:54:38,344

She is definitely a grand.

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00:54:38,484 --> 00:54:38,824

Oh yeah.

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Peter: She's never aged either.

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00:54:39,804 --> 00:54:40,504

She looks amazing.

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00:54:41,904 --> 00:54:45,324

But I think my biggest one

is the Fountain of Youth.

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I think it's real.

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Carissa: That's definitely real.

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00:54:47,904 --> 00:54:51,564

Peter: And that movie that we

watched the Fountain of Youth on

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00:54:51,974 --> 00:54:57,244

Apple it was actually, it was very

farfetched, but it was well done.

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00:54:57,634 --> 00:54:57,924

Yeah.

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00:54:57,944 --> 00:54:58,524

It was good.

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00:54:59,104 --> 00:55:03,404

And it was, they found the Fountain

of Youth and the Fountain of Youth

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was essentially this little puddle.

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00:55:05,244 --> 00:55:05,324

Hmm.

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00:55:05,584 --> 00:55:06,284

And you had to.

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It turned into an actual fountain,

but you had to be pure of heart and

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intention in order for it to work.

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Shaun: Yeah,

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Carissa: I like that.

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00:55:16,489 --> 00:55:18,789

Peter: But there was a guy

that was searching for it

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00:55:18,809 --> 00:55:19,989

for all the wrong reasons.

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00:55:20,429 --> 00:55:22,749

'cause he wanted to take

the years of someone.

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00:55:23,449 --> 00:55:28,959

And when he stepped in the fountain

it essentially challenged him and then

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00:55:29,099 --> 00:55:30,839

it like sucked his life force out.

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00:55:31,899 --> 00:55:32,439

Carissa: Oh my God.

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00:55:32,509 --> 00:55:32,799

Yeah,

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Peter: because he wasn't pure heart.

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00:55:34,979 --> 00:55:36,419

I think it actually exists.

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00:55:36,619 --> 00:55:39,459

I think a lot of people know where it

is, but I don't think it's something

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00:55:39,459 --> 00:55:40,819

that they can necessarily get to.

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00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:41,579

Shaun: Oh,

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00:55:41,579 --> 00:55:41,859

Peter: oh, oh,

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00:55:41,899 --> 00:55:42,339

Shaun: I got one.

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Sorry.

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00:55:43,479 --> 00:55:44,259

El Dorado.

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00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:45,259

Yes.

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00:55:45,759 --> 00:55:46,339

Carissa: That's real.

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00:55:46,389 --> 00:55:46,819

We're going.

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00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:48,299

That's it.

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00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:49,259

You gotta find it first.

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00:55:49,539 --> 00:55:51,059

Yeah, we're gonna fi we're gonna find it.

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I'm gonna find it.

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00:55:52,339 --> 00:55:53,019

Peter: I think it's real.

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00:55:53,689 --> 00:55:56,099

Yeah, we saw it on the Outer Banks.

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00:55:56,369 --> 00:55:57,539

Carissa: Yeah, the Outer Banks.

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00:55:57,539 --> 00:55:58,459

That was, that's a good show.

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00:55:58,539 --> 00:55:59,139

I like that show.

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00:55:59,169 --> 00:55:59,779

There's one

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00:55:59,779 --> 00:56:00,259

Shaun: more season.

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00:56:00,529 --> 00:56:00,819

Yeah.

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00:56:01,019 --> 00:56:03,259

Carissa: I thought it was gonna

be cheesy, but I'm really into it.

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00:56:03,529 --> 00:56:03,819

Peter: Yeah.

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00:56:03,859 --> 00:56:04,459

I love that show.

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00:56:05,394 --> 00:56:06,164

That is a good show.

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00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:07,444

I love Chase Stokes.

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00:56:07,614 --> 00:56:09,034

He is an awesome actor.

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00:56:09,414 --> 00:56:12,514

But I loved him in a Uglies movie too.

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00:56:12,904 --> 00:56:13,914

Shaun: Yeah, that was a good movie.

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00:56:14,494 --> 00:56:16,194

You said there's a second

one coming out of that?

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00:56:16,344 --> 00:56:19,554

Peter: Yeah, it's supposed to come

out, but I guess they're still in

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00:56:19,554 --> 00:56:24,884

talks for, it's called Pretty Oh,

so essentially Carissa the movie The

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00:56:24,944 --> 00:56:28,164

Uglies is and their 16th birthday.

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00:56:29,274 --> 00:56:30,934

So there, there's all these kids.

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00:56:31,294 --> 00:56:32,294

I was gonna say, I think it's 16th.

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00:56:32,824 --> 00:56:36,824

There are all these kids that are

growing up and they're doing like

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00:56:36,824 --> 00:56:42,544

their education and everything, and on

their 16th birthday they become pretty

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00:56:42,734 --> 00:56:47,664

because they can genetically design

themselves and then they go live in

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00:56:47,764 --> 00:56:49,224

the world with all the pretty people.

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00:56:49,954 --> 00:56:50,814

Carissa: Oh, that's cool.

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00:56:50,814 --> 00:56:51,214

You get plastic

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00:56:51,214 --> 00:56:51,574

Peter: surgery.

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00:56:52,054 --> 00:56:52,294

Yeah.

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00:56:52,354 --> 00:56:54,494

And they can pick like their

eye color and everything.

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00:56:54,894 --> 00:56:55,734

Carissa: I wanna watch this.

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00:56:55,734 --> 00:56:56,334

This is neat.

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00:56:56,514 --> 00:56:57,334

What's this on?

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00:56:57,674 --> 00:56:58,804

Peter: It's a Netflix original.

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00:56:58,984 --> 00:56:59,204

Oh.

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00:57:00,104 --> 00:57:01,784

But it's it's all fucked.

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00:57:02,484 --> 00:57:03,864

You just, you gotta watch it.

:

00:57:03,934 --> 00:57:05,104

It's a really good movie.

:

00:57:05,204 --> 00:57:07,384

But Chase Stokes is her best friend on it.

:

00:57:07,964 --> 00:57:13,364

And he becomes one of the pretties

'cause he turns 16 before her and

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00:57:13,954 --> 00:57:16,164

then he doesn't remember her at all.

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00:57:16,664 --> 00:57:17,564

Carissa: Oh, that's interesting.

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00:57:18,144 --> 00:57:21,564

Peter: So essentially they just, I'm

not giving away any more spoilers.

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00:57:21,634 --> 00:57:22,564

Just watch the movie.

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00:57:22,964 --> 00:57:23,204

I gotta

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00:57:23,204 --> 00:57:24,804

Carissa: take a break from

basketball and watch this.

:

00:57:25,804 --> 00:57:28,914

Peter: But yeah, that brings

us to near the end here.

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00:57:28,914 --> 00:57:31,194

Does anybody have anything

they wanna tell our listeners?

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00:57:32,194 --> 00:57:32,414

Shaun: No.

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00:57:33,554 --> 00:57:33,774

Yes.

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00:57:34,724 --> 00:57:35,294

Vote for us.

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00:57:35,484 --> 00:57:37,854

America's favorite couple:

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00:57:38,554 --> 00:57:38,774

Carissa: Yes.

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00:57:38,844 --> 00:57:40,094

Vote for my brothers please.

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00:57:41,094 --> 00:57:42,254

I keep reposting everywhere.

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00:57:42,254 --> 00:57:43,774

Everybody's liking the post too.

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00:57:44,324 --> 00:57:44,974

Yeah, we're

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00:57:44,974 --> 00:57:45,574

Shaun: doing well right now.

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00:57:45,874 --> 00:57:46,894

Carissa: You guys are super cute.

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00:57:48,154 --> 00:57:49,214

Shaun: We try, I don't

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00:57:49,214 --> 00:57:50,374

Carissa: just say that

because we're related.

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00:57:51,374 --> 00:57:51,794

Peter: Melody.

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00:57:52,484 --> 00:57:54,864

Anyway, too spicy for your whole.

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00:57:55,854 --> 00:57:57,824

Anybody got anything else they wanna talk?

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00:57:58,054 --> 00:57:59,224

Tell your listeners

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00:58:00,294 --> 00:58:03,494

Carissa: if you guys have any topics,

ideas definitely put them out there.

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00:58:03,504 --> 00:58:04,294

Share them with us.

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00:58:04,654 --> 00:58:06,334

Anything you wanna hear

us talk about, rant about?

:

00:58:07,014 --> 00:58:08,054

Anything you wanna rant about?

:

00:58:08,064 --> 00:58:08,654

Share with us?

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00:58:08,964 --> 00:58:10,734

Yeah, we like to hear

what you guys have to say.

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00:58:11,364 --> 00:58:16,144

Shaun: Yeah, if you want us to

do any review series of shows or

:

00:58:16,144 --> 00:58:19,064

movies, anything like that, let

us know what you're interested in.

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00:58:19,124 --> 00:58:23,134

We can always put those together the

three of us relatively quickly 'cause

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00:58:23,134 --> 00:58:26,454

we're so close in quarters now and

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00:58:26,454 --> 00:58:27,014

Carissa: we're fabulous.

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00:58:27,694 --> 00:58:27,734

Peter: Hmm.

:

00:58:28,034 --> 00:58:33,034

Just to segue off of that, if you

guys want to come on the podcast as

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00:58:33,034 --> 00:58:35,874

well, you can just drop us a message.

:

00:58:36,734 --> 00:58:41,034

We do have a few people that are

lined up currently, but if a topic

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00:58:41,164 --> 00:58:46,154

comes up and you want to come on,

then absolutely give us a shout out.

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00:58:46,654 --> 00:58:49,154

Shaun: Or if you have a topic you'd

like to come on and talk about.

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00:58:49,834 --> 00:58:50,124

Peter: Yeah,

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00:58:50,264 --> 00:58:51,124

Shaun: let us know that too.

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00:58:52,234 --> 00:58:53,324

Peter: Yeah, that'll be fun.

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00:58:53,904 --> 00:58:55,844

But sorry.

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00:58:56,844 --> 00:58:59,904

To all of our beautiful disasters

out there navigating the digital

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00:59:00,014 --> 00:59:04,504

hellscape, remember the authenticity

is still possible, even if you have

:

00:59:04,504 --> 00:59:06,264

to buy a strawberry robot to find it.

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00:59:07,494 --> 00:59:11,644

We'll be back next week with more chaos,

and hopefully by then someone will

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00:59:11,644 --> 00:59:14,204

have explained what actually means.

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00:59:15,214 --> 00:59:17,834

Until then, we'll talk next time.

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00:59:19,014 --> 00:59:19,234

Bye

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00:59:20,254 --> 00:59:20,474

Carissa: bye.

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