Mom, The Internet Hates Me (Again)
Wake up, doomscrollers: The internet in 2025 moves faster than your morning coffee, and today it’s your turn in the cancellation queue. On this episode of Apocalypse & Avocados, we unpack what it means to open your phone and find your old tweets trending, your newest TikTok stitched with a sorrowful violin soundtrack, and your mom texting, “Are you okay?” (The answer is probably not.)
Join us for a wild roast of overnight redemption arcs, viral apologies, and the art of bouncing back when you’d rather just disappear into the meme void. From regretful tweets to public clapbacks, meme fame, flaming inboxes, and those catastrophic group chats—this is your crash course in surviving the digital apocalypse, one violin meme at a time.
Will you get a redemption arc or ride out your fifteen seconds as the main character in someone else’s group chat? At least, for better or worse, you’re officially internet famous. Listen in for sharp commentary, chaotic stories, and the hope that tomorrow’s trending disaster isn’t yours.
Transcript
Picture this, you wake up, open your phone and discover
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:you've been canceled overnight.
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:Your old tweets are trending.
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:Someone stitched your TikTok
with a violin sound and your
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:mom just texted, are you okay?
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:Welcome to the internet in 2025.
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:If you're lucky, you get a redemption arc.
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:If not, well at least you're a meme.
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:This is apocalypse and avocados.
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:Apocalypse and avocados.
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:Shaun: Welcome back to Apocalypse
and Avocados Doom Scrollers.
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:We are here to spiral
so you don't have to.
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:Today we're asking the big question.
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:If you haven't been canceled at
least once, are you even online?
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:We're diving into cancel culture,
redemption arcs, and the internet
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:meltdowns that keep us doom.
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:Scrolling at 3:00 AM I'm here with Peter.
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:How you doing today?
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:Peter: Oh, you know, just living.
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:How about you?
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:Shaun: Oh, trying to figure out
the way I'm gonna be canceled
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:Peter: next.
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:Oh God, you don't have
to worry about that.
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:I get canceled every other day.
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:It's not even that serious anymore.
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:It's like a joke at this point, but
you're gonna, how do you cancel someone?
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:Honestly, how do you cancel
someone in an age where there's
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:8 billion people on this planet?
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:Someone's bound to like you.
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:Shaun: Yeah.
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:I feel like no matter what you do, no
matter how bad it is, there's always
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:gonna be someone who likes you and
there's gonna people who like you for
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:whatever terrible thing you've done too.
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:Peter: Yeah.
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:There's always some sickos out there.
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:They're like, yeah, yeah.
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:Punch 'em in the face again.
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:Punch 'em in the throat.
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:Kick 'em.
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:Yeah.
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:There's always some sickos out
there, but yeah I don't think
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:it's a real thing anymore.
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:I think it's more like.
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:Something people strive for.
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:Shaun: Yeah I feel like it started
for the right reasons for like
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:community accountability and trying
to get people to strive to be better.
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:But what it turned into is people just
trying to hide the shit that they've done
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:wrong so they don't get canceled, and then
when people find out about it, they don't
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:give 'em a chance to redeem themselves.
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:Peter: I remember back in the
day when Dick pics were like the.
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:Thing to cancel people about just seeing
some celebrities peeing on the internet
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:or that he sent to someone in confidence
and then, oh my God, he's canceled.
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:We shouldn't be doing this anymore.
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:It's a cock.
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:We, we were all products of a cock.
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:It's not really that serious.
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:Shaun: What about with girls like
Miley Cyrus and Vanessa Hudgens
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:with the pictures that they,
people tried to cancel them for
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:Peter: Well the case of Miley Cyrus, she
was posting almost nude with her father.
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:That was a little weird.
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:Shaun: Wait I was think, I thought it
was like a selfie of her and like a bra.
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:That she had
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:Peter: No, it was her.
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:And like the half green dress
that was like coming off and
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:Billy Ray Cyrus was there.
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:Shaun: Okay, that's weird, but
I don't scratch Miley from that.
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:But the Vanessa Hudgins thing,
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:Peter: I don't even remember that.
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:The only thing I remember,
Vanessa Hudgins from the last
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:thing I remember her from was.
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:The one, the movie where she was
some like smoker or drug addict.
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:And she was in the cabin locked away with
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:Shaun: Oh yeah.
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:Peter: I don't remember who it was.
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:I
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:Shaun: remember that one.
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:That was a pretty decent movie.
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:I think.
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:I can't, if I remember correctly.
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:Peter: Yeah.
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:But she can also go through her hell face.
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:She was much older than
people thought she was.
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:Especially back in her
high school musical days.
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:That's
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:Shaun: What I was getting at with it.
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:She got, people gave her
so much shit for sending a.
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:Naked picture and she was,
oh, is that what it was?
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:Yeah.
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:Peter: I mean, she is Filipino does
she have anything worth showing off?
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:Shaun: It was full bush
from what I recall.
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:Peter: Oh, how very
eighties of her seventies?
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:I don't know.
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:Seventies was the era where
everything was like full on Afro.
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:Right.
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:Afro Thunder.
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:Shaun: I don't know.
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:I wasn't alive
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:Peter: where the American looks
like what do you call that?
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:The Brillo pad.
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:Shaun: I would think sixties
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:Peter: Nobody's saying that you
have to go full on weed, whack
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:it, but you know, it is there to
protect it from getting germs in it.
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:So you going to strip it off with wax
till you can look like some adolescent
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:fucking baby is a little weird.
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:It's a little weird.
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:Why do they, they call it a
Brazilian because it's smooth, right?
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:I feel like this is offensive.
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:Shaun: I don't know.
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:I've never I think my brain just
always assumed that it was because
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:it, it originated in Brazil,
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:like it was the Brazilian style of.
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:Peter: Of getting rid of
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:Shaun: or or a procedure
that originated in Brazil.
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:Peter: That sounds like a lot
of pain for someone in Brazil.
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:No one wants to go down under your sweaty
cooch after you've been stumbling all
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:day and rip off your entire bush, your
whole rainforest from between your legs.
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:No one wants to do that.
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:Shaun: I was trying to figure
out how I was gonna get
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:canceled and this episode is it,
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:Peter: it's really not
that serious anymore.
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:I'm striving for cancellation.
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:No, I'm really not, but
it's, and maybe I am.
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:I just think it's fun.
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:Shaun: I agree to an extent.
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:Like I see some people getting canceled
for the most ridiculous things,
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:and then sometimes you just see the
redemption arcs that they make, and
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:it does seem like it's worth it.
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:Or maybe it was for pr, but
then there are other situations
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:where people just get destroyed.
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:Peter: Yeah, there are some places in
which people deserve it, but I also
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:wanna point out that a lot of people are
getting uppity and they're being over
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:defensive and oversensitive when it comes
to like ethnicity or, oh my god, you
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:said a word that you can't be saying.
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:There is a such thing
as being over allying.
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:Over allying is a thing and it's on the
point of just annoyance at this point.
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:So it comes, it comes
off performative, right?
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:Shaun: It's my new favorite word.
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:I don't know why,
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:Peter: but it's like canceling was
to show a point it was to protect
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:a marginalized community and.
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:I don't feel like it is that anymore.
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:I think it's like, oh my God,
you said something I don't like.
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:So, Hmm.
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:X is, and I'm gonna burn out the fucking
eyes on your picture with cigarettes.
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:Does anyone smoke anymore nowadays?
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:I don't know.
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:That was a real question.
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:Everyone vapes now just smoke
the cigarettes so much more.
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:Satisfying.
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:Yeah.
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:Satisfying.
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:I wish I still smoked, but I don't
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:Shaun: No, you don't wish you
still smoked because I do.
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:You said you would quit when you
didn't want to do it anymore.
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:Yeah, I did.
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:And you quit and
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:Peter: now I wanna do it again.
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:Oh, okay.
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:Shaun: Well, I mean, that's
understandable in these times.
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:Peter: Yeah.
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:I can't do that because I'm fat,
so if I start smoking, I'm gonna
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:sound like I did when I just saw
a piece of cake and I'm like,
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:the sugar spiking.
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:Oh my God.
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:Shaun: On that note, let's talk
a little bit about queer internet
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:rules when it comes to cancellation.
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:Do you feel like when it comes to
people in the queer community, gay
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:TikTok, comedians drag queens, maybe
lesbian comedians, that there is more
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:of a chance for them to redeem themself
in situations where they're canceled?
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:Peter: Not more of a chance,
but they're definitely gonna
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:try harder to redeem themselves.
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:Shaun: I feel like they just use
self-deprecation or thirst traps and
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:like suddenly they're back on top.
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:Peter: Mm.
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:I don't think that's entirely true.
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:Maybe some of them starting to only
fans and then that's how they get back
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:on top in more ways than one didn't.
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:Yeah.
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:But there's just like James
Charles, he couldn't post a
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:thirst trap if he wanted to.
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:No, no one wants to see that.
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:No, he doesn't.
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:And he thinks he's being sexy
when really he looks like an
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:oversized fucking Barbie doll that
someone shaved their fucking head.
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:And like the makeup is so thick.
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:You know, you've seen those Barbies
where they paint the blush on where
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:their cheeks are like completely
different color than their flesh stones.
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:Shaun: Yeah.
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:Peter: And then he shows off
his ass, which is not good.
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:By the way.
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:You should probably talk to your doctor
who did your BBL because it's not bbl.
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:L.
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:The BBL is not bing.
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:No, it's fucking disgusting.
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:And when he used to go to Coachella,
like that was one of the things.
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:He went to Coachella after he
had, I don't know, talked to
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:about diddling little boys.
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:And he posted the picture
with like his assless chaps.
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:Shaun: Ugh.
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:Yeah, I remember that picture.
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:It was not cute.
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:Peter: And the tie-dye thing,
whatever it was that like a jumpsuit.
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:Was that a ones onesie?
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:I don't know what.
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:It's all of the above.
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:When something goes up your
ass like that, it must smell.
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:It's not that it would smell.
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:Doesn't that fucking,
isn't it uncomfortable?
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:Well, that too, if you fart.
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:Does it like it whistle?
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:Yeah.
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:Does it whistle?
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:That would be interesting.
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:Shaun: It's like when you have a
paper in front of a fan, it's like,
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:Peter: yes.
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:Like when you have the clothes
pin and the tire of your bike.
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:Shaun: Yes, exactly.
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:What does that sound,
sorry, James Farted again?
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:Yeah,
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:Peter: I don't know.
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:They, I don't think it's
easier for them to come back.
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:I think they, they definitely
try harder than most people.
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:Lindsay Lohan got canceled years
and years ago, and look at her.
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:She came back, dissolved her
feller, and she looks like a
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:completely different person.
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:That girl can act good
for her, good for her.
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:That woman can act.
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:She was like the prodigy
of our generation.
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:Shaun: I loved her.
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:I was so obsessed with
her when I was younger.
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:Just everything about her from her acting
to her music, and I know she wasn't the
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:best singer or anything, but it was just.
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:It was very authentic in my
opinion, and it was very her.
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:I don't know.
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:I wish that she didn't get
canceled or didn't disappear for
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:so long, but I'm glad she's back.
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:Peter: Yeah, they tried to cancel her
because there, when she was with the
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:French guy and she was looking through
his phone on the beach, she like
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:grabbed his phone and they caught it
on camera and she was going through a
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:phone and he ripped it away from her.
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:Oh yeah.
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:Come on.
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:He was clearly doing
something very promiscuous.
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:But then again, if you've ever
watched Emily in Paris, they take
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:mistresses and their love is love.
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:So whatever.
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:I don't think that people deserve other
people saying anything about their life.
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:Yeah.
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:Or, or who they fuck.
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:And you shouldn't really
get canceled for anything.
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:It's none of our fucking business,
just because they're celebrities
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:and they're in the public light.
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:It doesn't mean that we come to
their defense every single time.
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:They're humans.
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:We just see what they do.
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:That's it.
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:Yeah, exactly.
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:There are a million other people that do
exactly the same thing, but just be go
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:unnoticed, so you gotta cancel everyone.
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:Shaun: And that with that said,
that's that's for certain things.
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:That's not for diddling
kids or killing people.
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:That's like,
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:Peter: yeah.
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:That's not for James Charles.
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:Shaun: Yeah, It's for other things.
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:Yeah.
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:Like maybe you cheated on someone and
that's not a good thing to do, but okay.
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:You can come back from that.
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:Peter: Yeah I don't condone it, but
you can come back from killing someone.
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:Just look at what happened with Brandy.
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:Okay.
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:Good
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:Shaun: point.
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:Good point.
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:Okay let's rephrase that.
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:Going on a murder spree or something
like intentionally murdering someone,
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:that's not necessarily something that
we're saying, oh, just let the person
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:redeem themself from right away.
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:Peter: No, no one should
redeem themselves from that.
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:But people have, look at it, , when they
made the documentary slash series on
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:Dahmer, did they not make it seem like
he was like a hypersexual being like made
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:him more appealing to the general public.
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:, There should not be these documentaries
on people that have murdered other people.
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:Is that how you saw him?
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:I, he was definitely more attractive
than what he really was in real life.
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:That's just 'cause of the actor.
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:Yeah, but it's fan people
make it as a fantasy thing.
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:Shaun: Okay if y'all are weird
I'm not fantasizing about someone
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:drilling into my fucking skull.
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:We're not talking about
trying to make a zombie.
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:Peter: We're not talking about the
act, we're talking about the character.
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:They made him more desirable than
he was in real life, maybe I don't,
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:they paint a different picture.
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:It's really not that serious anyway.
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:Shaun: I don't know.
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:I didn't see it.
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:I didn't see the sex appeal.
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:How about corporate hypocrisy?
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:How about that?
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:How about canceling brands?
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:How do you feel about that?
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:Peter: I feel like it's pointless.
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:They have so much money.
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:What are you gonna do?
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:You're gonna boycott Target because they
didn't have the LGBT collection this year.
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:Oh, boo fuck Fuckity who like,
seriously they, it's not affecting them.
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:It's not imposing any
enacting any real change.
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:Shaun: Actually on that topic I
just saw today that because Target
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:cut their DEI initiatives and
stopped supporting the L-G-B-T-Q.
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:They saw a 17% decrease in profits, which
led to a 27% decrease in their stock
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:value, and their CEO had to step down.
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:So while it's not something that's
massive, they are being impacted
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:because their main, they just
decided to alienate one of their main
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:target group, one of their target.
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:Peter: So.
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:Okay, that's great and all,
but you're talking about
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:canceling these major brands.
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:What happens if this is the only
fucking store in the middle of
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:nowhere, like the middle of nowhere
and you, or the only store you have
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:to shabb at is Kroger's and you're
gonna cancel them because they didn't
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:have the kind of beef that you want.
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:So you're gonna protest and what
you're gonna drive to the next
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:fucking county to go shopping.
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:Shaun: Okay.
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:That's, you're right.
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:That does seem a bit much,
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:Peter: you're not gonna get them canceled.
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:No.
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:I understand why people do
that, but like it's overzealous.
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:You're never gonna get them canceled.
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:And what exactly constitutes
cancellation now?
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:Shaun: Yeah I'd like to know that too,
because I feel like it's just snowballed
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:into something that it wasn't before.
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:Peter: Yeah, it's, I don't know.
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:I don't understand what it is
there's no specific, it is very,
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:it's got a lot of gray area.
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:It does canceling cancellations used to be
just like completely boycotting the person
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:and not allowing them to continue acting
or modeling or making money at that point.
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:Now it's about, oh, we don't
like you, so we're gonna talk
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:shit about you on the internet.
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:Yeah.
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:And hope that everybody
just joins on the bandwagon.
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:But that's not the case.
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:It isn't the case.
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:It's really impossible to quote
unquote, cancel someone nowadays.
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:Shaun: I completely agree.
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:I think that it's, it
just gets so outta hand.
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:It was once about holding people
accountable, like we said, and then
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:it just became about talking shit.
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:Peter: Yeah, these keyboard worries.
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:Like you can say whatever the fuck you
want about me, and you can sit there
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:and you can punch away at that keyboard.
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:But at the end of the day, you still
live in your parents' basement.
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:You're probably jerking off to the fact
that you think you did some sort of
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:profound thing by writing that post.
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:And it's just sad.
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:It's sad,
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:Shaun: and you're keeping me employed.
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:Thank you.
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:Peter: Right.
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:Every single time that you take
one of those keyboard strokes and
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:you write something negative, you
are just making the person more
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:popular that you're writing about.
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:Shaun: Yeah.
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:Do you have any confessions from
near cancellation moments or
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:anytime you tried to cancel someone?
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:Peter: I don't try to cancel anyone.
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:They cancel themselves.
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:There's no point.
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:Touche.
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:They do.
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:There's no point in exerting energy
on somebody that really won't
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:matter at the end of the day.
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:Shaun: Yeah.
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:I can remember having a few too many
drinks while watching Drag Race and
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:tweeting out my opinions, and then the
next day thinking to myself, oh shit.
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:After seeing some angry messages
from other fans back to me
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:maybe I won't do that again.
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:Peter: Yeah, your opinions are
your opinions, and you're more
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:than welcome to voice them, and
I think that people need to stop
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:being so fucking sensitive about it.
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:And it's not really impacting you.
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:It's not the only person
that it's impacting is the
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:person that it's directed at.
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:I agree.
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:And that's not okay.
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:But if you can't take it, why the
fuck are you trying to become famous?
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:If you can't take it, you're not just like
the eyes of your 30,000 followers that
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:you have on whatever social platform you
have it on, you are now on a global stage.
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:Yes.
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:You cannot have this wimpy,
blasted, thin ass membrane of skin.
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:You really can't.
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:You need to grow up and you need to
grow a thick skin and get a really
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:good public relations consultant.
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:Shaun: Definitely that.
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:But it's like when you see people
go on competition shows of any kind
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:and they get upset for the critique
they're getting and they say I don't
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:care what they say, or I don't need to
prove myself to, no, you actually do.
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:You literally signed up for that.
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:That's what you signed up for.
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:Yeah.
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:You signed up to be judged.
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:You absolutely
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:Peter: did.
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:Shaun: And to have to prove
yourself to these people.
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:That is what you wanted to do.
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:Peter: Yeah.
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:I don't think that people should be
canceled for that, and especially
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:the judge like that is what they did.
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:They signed the paperwork and
you're there to be judged.
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:Shaun: Exactly.
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:Exactly.
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:You may not
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:Peter: like the way that they're doing
it, but that's what they signed up for.
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:You can't get all defensive for them.
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:You can't try and cancel somebody.
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:You're ruining their life.
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:You're ruining their life.
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:They didn't ruin that other person's life
because now they look like the victim.
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:Yeah.
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:Shaun: Alright.
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:I've got a quick game for you.
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:Peter: Okay.
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:Okay.
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:Shaun: So we're gonna play this game.
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:I'm gonna read you a scenario and
I want you to, it's apologies.
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:I want you to tell me if
they are real or fake.
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:Bonus points, if you can guess
who used them, if they were real.
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:Peter: Okay.
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:Shaun: All right.
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:We'll start with this one.
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:I was young, dumb, and full of um, bad.
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:Peter: Was I wrong?
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:Shaun: Yes.
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:You were wrong in this situation.
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:I was young, dumb, and
full of bad opinions.
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:I've learned and I'm
ready to move forward.
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:Peter: Was that Lord?
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:No, that one was fake.
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:Oh, that's sad.
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:It sounds like every fucking
half-ass apology that.
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:Someone makes.
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:Yeah.
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:Like any celebrity
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:Shaun: makes, how about this one?
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:There is no excuse for my ignorance.
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:I was wrong then and I'm
still learning today.
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:I'm committed to growth and doing better.
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:That is real.
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:Yes it is.
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:And I think it was Ariana Grande.
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:It may have been.
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:There's been many people who have used it.
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:Specifically influencers.
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:Including beauty YouTubers
like Laura Lee and Manny, MUA.
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:Peter: Hmm.
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:I don't even remember any scandals
that Manny, MUA was involved in.
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:Shaun: Me either.
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:So clearly you can come back I sometimes
forget that he was even like big.
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:Peter: I mean, did he is big again,
but did somebody what was the scandal?
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:Did he shove a mascara in his
ass that was like, designer?
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:I don't get it.
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:I don't know.
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:We'll have to look
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:Shaun: that up.
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:Peter: Yeah, he painted his
asshole the wrong shaded of blush.
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:That was the scandal.
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:Oh my God.
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:Shaun: How about this one?
470
:My behavior was unacceptable.
471
:Full stop.
472
:I have taken time off to
reflect and educate myself.
473
:I'm grateful for those who called me out.
474
:Peter: I don't know.
475
:It sounds real, it sounds
like it could be Pauline.
476
:Anyone remember her?
477
:She used a bad word.
478
:Yeah, she did.
479
:I don't know.
480
:It's real.
481
:Shaun: Yeah.
482
:That one is real.
483
:It was Kevin Hart.
484
:Oh God.
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:On several TikTok apology tours.
486
:Peter: He is so tiny.
487
:He reminds me of a dildo.
488
:He's so small.
489
:Shaun: Oh my God.
490
:All right, how about this one?
491
:I didn't realize my jokes about
cats could be seen as offensive.
492
:I love cats.
493
:I'm sorry to anyone who was hurt.
494
:Peter: That's
495
:Shaun: fake.
496
:Yes, that was fake.
497
:Peter: That's fake.
498
:And that was Vance.
499
:Probably would've said
that about Taylor Swift.
500
:A lonely Catwoman.
501
:Oh my God.
502
:He does his eyeliner like a cat.
503
:I feel like it's tattooed on.
504
:No.
505
:Tattoo artist would touch him.
506
:He looks really weird.
507
:Shaun: Yeah, eh.
508
:Anyway, how about this one?
509
:Please stop bringing up the past.
510
:I already apologized and continuing
to harass me helps no one,
511
:Peter: right?
512
:It sounds
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:Shaun: real.
514
:It is.
515
:We have talked about this person tonight.
516
:Peter: Oh, James Charles?
517
:Yes.
518
:It's half-assed and his ass is half-ass.
519
:It's fucking disgusting.
520
:Please don't look it up.
521
:Save yourself the retinal scarring.
522
:Shaun: Okay.
523
:How about
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:I deeply regret the language I used.
525
:It was wrong, and I want to
apologize to the communities I hurt.
526
:I will do better.
527
:Peter: No, that sounds stupid.
528
:The language they use, unless
they said a racial slur, people
529
:need to get less sensitive.
530
:Shaun: So I know the
backstory to this one.
531
:This was real.
532
:This is Lizzo apologizing for
lyrics that she put in her song.
533
:Apparently there was a song that she had
released and she used the lyrics, and I'm
534
:quoting this for purpose of the story,
so please do not get offended by it.
535
:She said spazz.
536
:Oh God, I remember that.
537
:Yeah.
538
:So someone felt it was, could
be used as a derogatory term
539
:for people who have spasms.
540
:Peter: So she changed.
541
:I'm having a spasm right now,
542
:Shaun: so she changed the
543
:Peter: lyrics.
544
:That's fucking stupid.
545
:Shaun: Do you wanna talk
about some of your favorite
546
:cancellations over the years?
547
:I can't really remember any.
548
:One of, I would say the Queen of
cancellations is Tricia Pettis.
549
:Oh God.
550
:She's constantly getting canceled
and just like coming back somehow
551
:Peter: she reminds me.
552
:Of what's his name?
553
:Gollum from Lord of the Rings.
554
:My God, if you shaved her bald, she
would look like him, shaved her bald
555
:and filed down like one of her teeth.
556
:Oh God.
557
:She, she looked like Gollum.
558
:Shaun: Yeah, I can see it.
559
:I can definitely see that.
560
:Peter: Yeah.
561
:I don't understand her at all.
562
:I remember when she used to be friends
with Shane Dawson back in the day and
563
:they used to do halls together, but
I've stopped caring about Trisha Paint.
564
:That's a long time ago.
565
:Shaun: What about Shane Dawson?
566
:Shane Dawson got canceled too.
567
:Peter: Yeah, his was a
little bit, it was warranted.
568
:Yeah, that was a bit cray.
569
:He was like pretending to jerk
off to Willow Smith, right?
570
:Shaun: Yeah.
571
:When she was way under age.
572
:Peter: But also he used to,
he did the twilight spoof.
573
:Remember where he was
drinking the period blood.
574
:Oh my
575
:Shaun: god.
576
:Peter: Yeah.
577
:Yeah.
578
:I do remember that now.
579
:He always did inappropriate
shit like that one.
580
:It was it was a little far,
but yeah, it was not warranted.
581
:Shaun: How about Doja cat?
582
:Peter: She tried to self cancel.
583
:Shaun: Yeah.
584
:And she did double down
on it and it didn't.
585
:She like quadrupled down on it.
586
:Peter: I think she was trying
to prove a point that cancel
587
:culture is not a real thing.
588
:Shaun: Yeah.
589
:And she was right.
590
:Did you see the recent one
about the kid with the shirt?
591
:Mm-hmm.
592
:So apparently some guy gave her, she
saw some fan outside of a club and
593
:told him that she loved his shirt
and he gave her the shirt and then.
594
:She posted something online about, she
threw out that crusty, disgusting, smelly
595
:shirt or something along those lines, and
people were giving her shit for a while.
596
:Peter: Yeah, you should probably
keep that shit to yourself oh yeah.
597
:I got something on it so
I had to throw it out.
598
:Unfortunately.
599
:Don't, yeah, don't say you took his
cresty cu covered fucking stained shirt
600
:and threw it out like You're rude.
601
:You're rude.
602
:I hate the way she draws
her eyebrows on too.
603
:Shaun: They're just lines.
604
:When did super skinny eyebrows
come back into fashion?
605
:Peter: They should have stayed right out
of fashion 'cause that was a nineties
606
:trend and it looked horrendous then.
607
:And for her to draw her
Betty boot brows on.
608
:For those of you who don't know who Betty
Boop is, you should probably look it up.
609
:And you will see a striking
resemblance to Joe, a cat.
610
:She is she's like a blonde Betty.
611
:Boop.
612
:I can see it.
613
:Not as fun though, and swears a lot more.
614
:Shaun: While we're on the topic
of cancellations, let's talk about
615
:something that kind of goes hand in
hand with the internet, meltdowns.
616
:Do you have any favorite internet
meltdowns that you've witnessed?
617
:Peter: Mm, no.
618
:I feel like fucking Trump
does one every other day.
619
:Shaun: Yes,
620
:Peter: absolutely.
621
:Has a meltdown over absolutely nothing.
622
:His hands are really small.
623
:I've said this before, they, I am
still stuck on this tiny hands.
624
:How does he reach all of the keys?
625
:How does he jerk off with that?
626
:Does it make it look bigger?
627
:Sorry.
628
:Bunch of questions.
629
:Sorry.
630
:Yeah, I feel like he melts down every day.
631
:It's not really my favorite.
632
:It's just recycled bullshit every day.
633
:I can't recall any other meltdowns.
634
:I know Rihanna was the
queen of clap backs.
635
:Shaun: Yeah.
636
:I miss her clap back.
637
:She's calmed down quite
a bit on the internet.
638
:Peter: She doesn't feel the need
to defend herself anymore because
639
:she says she's a billionaires.
640
:Shaun: Yeah, so how about what
makes a good meltdown for you?
641
:What is the anatomy of a meltdown for you?
642
:For me, it involves like a really
vague post, a whole subtweet
643
:or Subpost war going on beneath
it, and then weeks of drama.
644
:Peter: It would be great if somebody
like the whole Leave Britney alone kid.
645
:That was a internet meltdown, but
that wasn't like, that wasn't a right.
646
:I believe her name is Kara Cunningham now.
647
:I don't know.
648
:She's fucking hideous either way.
649
:But yeah, that was an internet meltdown.
650
:I just, I feel like people that are.
651
:They get on there and they just
completely humiliate yourself when the
652
:celebrities are probably gonna look
at it and fucking cringe the ones in
653
:tears and the mascara running down.
654
:And yeah, that's a meltdown where you
just completely defend a person and
655
:you don't even know the whole context.
656
:Like with the whole Pierre and Nikki thing
he just came out, Nikki just cleared the
657
:air as to what happened between them.
658
:Shaun: Oh, I didn't even know that.
659
:Peter: Yeah, detail.
660
:So apparently they were having
problems way before they
661
:decided to even get married.
662
:And they got married so that they
would have a thing that was just
663
:them and it wasn't public, and they
thought it would help, or Nikki
664
:thought it would be good for them.
665
:So they did it on a whim.
666
:And then TMZ, the cover broke where
they had gotten married and suddenly
667
:it wasn't private for them anymore.
668
:Apparently Pierre was just really selfish
and he just spent money frivolously and
669
:Nikki was trying to build a life for them.
670
:And then he got really pissed, I
guess Pierre got really pissed at
671
:Nikki and posted the TikTok saying
that we ended it, or the tweet.
672
:Before even consulting
with Nikki, so Oh shit.
673
:Yeah.
674
:And then left him to deal
with the repercussions.
675
:Shaun: Oh, wow.
676
:So all the brands that they had
to, had deals with and stuff.
677
:Peter: Yeah.
678
:And then apparently he
lied about his age too.
679
:Okay.
680
:He
681
:Shaun: is a lot older
than he people thought.
682
:I have no idea.
683
:I
684
:Peter: didn't read that story yet,
but apparently he lied about his age.
685
:So yeah.
686
:I think that the people that
went after Nikki were just.
687
:Assholes.
688
:Shaun: Yeah, that makes sense.
689
:And I think that the biggest
internet meltdown that I can
690
:think of would be Britney Spears.
691
:Yeah.
692
:Back in 2007
693
:Peter: now.
694
:Shaun: Well, yeah.
695
:Actually.
696
:Geez.
697
:Whoa.
698
:I wasn't even thinking.
699
:Yeah, now the knives.
700
:The knives, what is
going on with the knives?
701
:Peter: It's not just that.
702
:Before, why the fuck
did she shave her head?
703
:Was that the drugs, did she think she
had wasps in her brain or something
704
:that she was like, she had so much lice?
705
:Shaun: My theory back then, and I've
heard that this is a popular theory
706
:in some places, is that she was
trying to avoid a drug test where
707
:they were gonna do a hair follicle.
708
:Peter: She was trying to
avoid a drug test, so she made
709
:herself the chick from splice.
710
:Shaun: Essentially
711
:Peter: the alien from Splice.
712
:Shaun: But then I've heard other
things where it was like in her
713
:contract or whatever she had that she
had to have her hair a certain way.
714
:So that was like a rebellion
against her conservatorship
715
:or whatever she had going on.
716
:So I don't know.
717
:I don't know the whole story behind
it, but there's so many theories.
718
:Peter: I don't know.
719
:I think it was stupid.
720
:She looked crazy.
721
:She looked like some sort of hob
goblin, especially when she cracked the
722
:paparazzi's windshield with the umbrella
and they got that, that famous photo.
723
:Shaun: Oh my God.
724
:Yeah.
725
:That was, that's probably
the epitome of a meltdown.
726
:Peter: You know what she looks like?
727
:She looked like the when in the matrix,
when they finally unlock your brain.
728
:And you get sucked out of that
little egg pod thing like Neo did.
729
:And he had the thing where he
pulled the breathing tube out and
730
:he had no eyebrows and no hair.
731
:Oh my God.
732
:That's what she looked
like I for, I forgot.
733
:Shaun: That's what he looked like.
734
:Peter: Someone just unlocked
her brain and not in a good way.
735
:They used chemical substances, so
she was go grilling on people's cars.
736
:Oh, so many times that she
had her frigging vagina.
737
:Uch.
738
:Yeah.
739
:Shot by the paparazzi so many times.
740
:She was like the queen of that.
741
:Shaun: Yes, absolutely.
742
:Peter: It was terrible.
743
:Oh, didn't Nisha Barton have a
huge meltdown back in the day?
744
:Oh, there's a name I haven't
heard in a very long time.
745
:I don't know.
746
:I think she was trying to copyright
her name or something like that.
747
:Shaun: I remember that.
748
:That I remember.
749
:And they basically told her, fuck no.
750
:Peter: Yeah, there's too
many people with that name.
751
:You can't copyright it.
752
:What the hell?
753
:The last thing I remember from her
was the movie with the Dolphins.
754
:It was, why does that sound familiar?
755
:I, she could communicate with the
Dolphins telepathically or something.
756
:Maybe I'm getting my movies interesting.
757
:I remember it had a dolphin though.
758
:I can't picture her
759
:Shaun: in a role like that, but I'm
here for it, w Let's talk a little
760
:bit about how people's spirals
online can actually be a good thing.
761
:Sometimes, like when we think about
movies and stuff, like Barbie, mm-hmm.
762
:Conservatives came for Barbie so
hard and all it did was amplify
763
:the desire for people to go see it.
764
:It just gave people more and more.
765
:Oomph to say, you know what,
I'm gonna go see it five times.
766
:And they ended up doing like 1.4
767
:billion.
768
:And so controversy really
can just like fuel anything.
769
:It can be good or bad.
770
:Peter: Yeah, it can be, the whole
freaking thing with this ridiculous
771
:dictator of a president where he was
talking about all the sex scandals
772
:and the Stormy Daniels thing.
773
:It really just made him more
popular, especially with the freaking
774
:white people with tiny hands.
775
:Shaun: Oh yeah, absolutely.
776
:They're
777
:Peter: suddenly a
778
:Shaun: minority.
779
:Anything to make, give them
something to fucking complain about.
780
:Peter: Yeah they're always complaining.
781
:The Barbie movie was
a little weird for me.
782
:It was
783
:Shaun: very
784
:Peter: strange.
785
:Shaun: The first, I would say,
10 minutes of it had me like,
786
:what the fuck am I watching?
787
:Peter: It was like an acid
trip when you're watching it.
788
:It was so colorful and
everyone was so cheerful.
789
:Shaun: Hi Barbie,
790
:Peter: and it looks like you could just
throw some napalm there and everything
791
:would just melt and be terrifying.
792
:Like remember the movie Toy Soldiers?
793
:Yes.
794
:I
795
:Shaun: loved that movie
796
:Peter: when they, at the end of the
movie where they're fighting all the
797
:little Barbies that are in there and
they're all like melted and stuff.
798
:Shaun: I forgot they
recruited the Barbies.
799
:Peter: Yeah.
800
:That's what it would remind me
of if somebody like dropped acid
801
:and then watched that movie,
everything would melt in there.
802
:It would be really, it's a
weird movie, especially with
803
:the showering with no water.
804
:And the walking outta the shower
the feet that are up at an angle.
805
:Shaun: That was so strange.
806
:I will agree.
807
:When I saw her feet like that, I
thought to myself, oh, and obviously
808
:I know her feet aren't actually like
that in real life, but it was just
809
:I don't know, jarring, to look at.
810
:Peter: And maybe that's what
the conservatives were getting
811
:mad about because their feet
weren't shaped like that.
812
:Shaun: I want my feet shaped like Barbies.
813
:Peter: Yeah.
814
:MGT has the fucking crazy hammer
toes and she could never get
815
:her feet to look like that.
816
:Shaun: Oh my gosh.
817
:Do you remember when that we had another
double feature because that was released
818
:with Heimer and there was all of that
chaos on the internet where they were
819
:mashing them together and stuff, and the
Barb Inheimer ads and stuff like that.
820
:But what do you remember when Mama
Mia too and Mission Impossible
821
:Fallout came out together?
822
:Peter: I don't remember Mission
Impossible, fallout 'cause I
823
:try and avoid Tom Cruise because
it reminds me of a pelican.
824
:I remember Mama Mia too.
825
:Everyone was so pissed that Meryl
Streep wasn't in it if you actually
826
:watch it, the whole storyline does make
sense and is actually pretty heartfelt.
827
:But they were like tearing
it to pieces because.
828
:It came out at the same time and the
original one came out at the same
829
:time as the original avatar and people
couldn't get into the movie theater
830
:to see Avatar, so they were gonna see
Mama Mia, and that's the reason that
831
:they thought that it did so well.
832
:Oh, really?
833
:Yeah, because it, people really
couldn't get into Avatar to see it,
834
:so they were just taking what they
thought would be the next best thing.
835
:Oh, wow.
836
:So I believe, don't you
can quote me on that.
837
:I think it was Avatar, but I, yeah,
I'm like 90% sure it was Avatar.
838
:But yeah, that's why it performed so well.
839
:So they were like, why did they
even make a fucking second part?
840
:Like the first one wasn't that good?
841
:Shaun: I liked it.
842
:I liked them.
843
:I thought they were good.
844
:They got me into musicals.
845
:Peter: Yeah, I like them.
846
:I like 'em a lot.
847
:They're very bubbly and fun, but
which are not two things that I
848
:generally put together in a sentence.
849
:But yeah, that those are fun.
850
:I love Amanda Cipher.
851
:Yeah, she's really good in that one.
852
:Her husband in that
movie did not age well.
853
:Shaun: No.
854
:But he was so hot in that movie.
855
:Peter: He could play Quasimoto now.
856
:It would look pretty accurate.
857
:Really sad.
858
:Oh my God.
859
:Yeah, I can see 'em saying Sanctuary.
860
:Sanctuary,
861
:bringing their church bell.
862
:Yeah.
863
:Or Shrek.
864
:Yeah.
865
:Live action.
866
:Shrek the nose.
867
:Shaun: It's just the nose, the noses.
868
:I thought that I was losing my mind
reading Barbie think pieces, but
869
:apparently the gay internet will
implode over things like oat milk.
870
:Really?
871
:So I've heard that people are canceling
each other over coffee orders and.
872
:All kinds of crazy bullshit.
873
:Peter: I would cancel someone
over their coffee order.
874
:And here's why.
875
:When you go to Starbucks, Starbucks,
okay, and you proceed to tell the
876
:barista how to make your coffee
down to the amount of pumps that go
877
:into it, you deserve to be canceled.
878
:You deserve to be stoned.
879
:You are a shithole of a person.
880
:Don't do it.
881
:It's ridiculous.
882
:Starbucks is made to order.
883
:If you want an extra pump of sweetener
in it, just say that and it would like
884
:a little bit more sweetener, but you
don't get to go in and then I want this
885
:milk subtly, but ferociously heated
so that the bubbles burn my fucking
886
:eyes when the vapors pop and they go.
887
:In my eyes, the coffee
should be a exactly a 92
888
:Shaun: degrees.
889
:Peter: And 12 pumps of caramel
and one pump of chocolate swirl.
890
:57 pumps of lavender syrup.
891
:Baby queefs and tears of
a unborn child, fetus.
892
:I don't know.
893
:You shouldn't be going in
and doing that stupid shit.
894
:You deserve to be canceled
and kicked in the clay.
895
:Oh my god.
896
:That's it.
897
:I hate when you go in and you get those
people too, like when you're in the drive
898
:through line for it and you're sitting
there and you're waiting because this
899
:person has this ridiculous concoction
that's in front of you that looks
900
:like they're performing alchemy and
you have to wait an extra 20 minutes.
901
:You deserve to be canceled.
902
:You deserve to be canceled.
903
:How many times have I wanted to ram a
fucking car through the drive through?
904
:Because your coffee
order was so difficult.
905
:Shaun: Yeah it should not be
that hard to order a coffee.
906
:Peter: I will say this Dunking Donuts
I understand as the coffee is awful.
907
:So you have to add the 17 million
additives that you do and swirl it
908
:while jumping on your leg three times
in a circle and throwing salt over your
909
:shoulder just to make it taste good.
910
:Mm-hmm.
911
:Yeah that I understand.
912
:That's not real.
913
:Yeah, it's not real coffee.
914
:It is dirty sock water.
915
:Mm-hmm.
916
:That has been squeezed through a
cheesecloth and has been presented
917
:to you in this half-ass fucking cup.
918
:With the ugliest Crayola colors on it.
919
:Shaun: You know what they're,
why they picked them, right?
920
:What the colors for Dunking?
921
:Peter: No.
922
:Shaun: So when I was in high school,
we had marketing executives come
923
:in and talk to us who one of them
worked for Dunking at one point.
924
:And the orange and the pink from what
they told us were picked because pink
925
:makes you think of something sweet and
orange makes you think of something cheap.
926
:So it's supposed to make you
immediately think sweet and cheap.
927
:Peter: The pink makes me think
of white women's nipples.
928
:I was gonna say Pepto-Bismol.
929
:No.
930
:And like the pig nipples, the white
women's pig nipples that are that color.
931
:And the areola that takes
up the, a whole breast.
932
:The one where it's like the
bread and butter plate size.
933
:And then the orange makes
me think of Donald Trump.
934
:So this is just terrible fucking coffee.
935
:It's not even coffee.
936
:You can't call that swell coffee.
937
:Shaun: I used to drink it.
938
:I can't anymore.
939
:I really can't.
940
:Sorry to anyone who loves it,
but it's not my cup of tea
941
:Peter: or coffee.
942
:It's not a cup of coffee either.
943
:Shaun: Yeah.
944
:It's neither for me.
945
:It's neither here nor there.
946
:I don't want it.
947
:Keep it away for me.
948
:Peter: You can smell it
five miles down the road.
949
:Shaun: I think I stopped liking it when
I got burnt cold brew on a regular basis.
950
:Peter: How do you fucking burn?
951
:Shaun: Cold brew
952
:Peter: there?
953
:How do you burn?
954
:There's a problem there.
955
:Cold brew.
956
:It is literally sitting in the fridge.
957
:It does not touch heat.
958
:Shaun: Yeah.
959
:And don't come from me saying that
you can't burn cold brew 'cause
960
:I know you can't burn cold brew.
961
:It was clear that it wasn't
cold brew that I was getting.
962
:Peter: Yeah, you were getting
the recycled frigging cis of
963
:what used to be coffee beans
964
:Shaun: from last night.
965
:Like, geez, you make enough
money, get it together, Duncan.
966
:And
967
:Peter: why are the people
that work at Dunkins so rude?
968
:So rude.
969
:Shaun: I have a theory that I
can't present 'cause it will
970
:definitely get me canceled.
971
:Oh, I think I know what
you're talking about.
972
:Yeah.
973
:But anyway.
974
:Peter: No, they're, they are
the rudest fucking people ever.
975
:And then they, you can tell like when you
get up to the window that they just wanna
976
:throw their, the coffee in your face.
977
:Yeah.
978
:Yeah.
979
:Most of the time they
don't wanna give it to you.
980
:They just wanna throw it in your face.
981
:And how come every time you go in there,
somebody is fucking blasting music and
982
:they're always talking to each other.
983
:They never acknowledge
that you're at the counter.
984
:They never acknowledge until you've
been sitting there for an hour,
985
:Shaun: at least.
986
:My theory on that one is that
they're hoping that if they
987
:don't see you, you go away.
988
:Peter: No.
989
:If they don't acknowledge my
presence, I will make them by taking
990
:a shit on the fucking counter.
991
:This is why you don't go to dunk donuts.
992
:Shaun: Oh my God.
993
:I don't like being ignored.
994
:That's extreme.
995
:Peter: I'm a pretty easy
person to deal with.
996
:You get my coffee and it
tastes like palatable.
997
:I'm okay with that.
998
:Because it's doing its job.
999
:When I get it from Starbucks and
they fuck up on the order, I'm
:
00:43:43,752 --> 00:43:46,902
like, okay, this doesn't happen
often, so I'm just gonna drink this.
:
00:43:46,902 --> 00:43:48,012
I'm not gonna bitch about it.
:
00:43:48,012 --> 00:43:51,192
I'm not gonna go back to the counter
and be like, can you remake this?
:
00:43:51,552 --> 00:43:52,212
Remake it.
:
00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:53,472
It's not what I ordered.
:
00:43:53,772 --> 00:43:55,062
Actually, it is what you order.
:
00:43:55,062 --> 00:43:56,532
You just don't like the way it tastes.
:
00:43:57,252 --> 00:43:58,602
That's your fucking fault.
:
00:43:58,782 --> 00:44:03,102
So why don't you go home and on the
way, pick up the 15 fucking gallons of
:
00:44:03,102 --> 00:44:04,612
caramel syrup you're gonna put in it.
:
00:44:05,547 --> 00:44:06,777
Get the fuck outta the store.
:
00:44:07,107 --> 00:44:08,247
Leave the baristas alone.
:
00:44:08,397 --> 00:44:11,607
Shaun: I have a question for you because
do you feel like part of the reason
:
00:44:11,607 --> 00:44:16,667
you don't feel the need to do that is
that you feel you, there's gonna be
:
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:19,847
more animosity towards you from people?
:
00:44:20,027 --> 00:44:23,387
The reason I'm asking that is it because
typically people of color and queer
:
00:44:23,387 --> 00:44:28,727
people are held to a higher standard
or are more likely to be dragged and
:
00:44:29,207 --> 00:44:31,667
attempted to have been canceled online.
:
00:44:31,817 --> 00:44:37,217
So do you feel like you're gonna get
more backlash if you like ask someone to
:
00:44:37,222 --> 00:44:38,627
remake something 'cause it was made wrong?
:
00:44:39,227 --> 00:44:41,837
Peter: No, I don't, to be
honest, I don't really care.
:
00:44:42,737 --> 00:44:46,427
But no, I just don't see the need
to have somebody remake something.
:
00:44:46,637 --> 00:44:48,257
There's enough waste in the world.
:
00:44:48,897 --> 00:44:50,097
They're just gonna pour it out.
:
00:44:50,097 --> 00:44:51,477
They're not gonna drink it themselves.
:
00:44:51,527 --> 00:44:52,157
Whatever.
:
00:44:52,217 --> 00:44:53,897
Everyone's entitled to a bad day.
:
00:44:54,527 --> 00:44:56,897
Yeah, the coffee can be bad one day.
:
00:44:56,897 --> 00:45:00,377
If I come back tomorrow, then we're
gonna have a fucking problem if it's bad.
:
00:45:00,377 --> 00:45:03,627
But no I don't think it's because.
:
00:45:04,497 --> 00:45:07,257
I'm gonna be held to a different
caliber than anybody else.
:
00:45:08,277 --> 00:45:09,357
I think that would be stupid.
:
00:45:09,727 --> 00:45:13,687
Shaun: I just feel like sometimes
there are certain groups of people
:
00:45:13,687 --> 00:45:17,797
who get held to a different, not
held to a different standard, but
:
00:45:18,307 --> 00:45:23,797
you make one slip up and you're
like, suddenly this terrible person.
:
00:45:24,797 --> 00:45:25,487
Peter: Yeah.
:
00:45:25,557 --> 00:45:27,597
Usually that, okay.
:
00:45:27,597 --> 00:45:29,367
I don't like when people go in and they.
:
00:45:30,177 --> 00:45:34,287
This reminds me of those whole AI videos
where they're screaming the person.
:
00:45:35,097 --> 00:45:38,517
I don't like when people go in and
assume that because the person is
:
00:45:38,517 --> 00:45:43,467
working at a coffee establishment or
fast food place, that you are entitled
:
00:45:43,467 --> 00:45:45,897
to talk to somebody in a specific way.
:
00:45:45,897 --> 00:45:53,347
And I feel that comes from
specific groups of people.
:
00:45:53,427 --> 00:45:55,947
My particular ethnicity included.
:
00:45:56,892 --> 00:46:01,452
Is known to do that, but I think
that it is not that they were
:
00:46:01,452 --> 00:46:04,992
being held to a different standard,
it's just people are prepared for
:
00:46:05,082 --> 00:46:08,202
us to act a fool when we go in.
:
00:46:08,202 --> 00:46:11,982
So they're already like, on
edge, I guess that makes sense.
:
00:46:12,672 --> 00:46:16,282
It's also that my parents here when
we're staying with them, 'cause we're
:
00:46:16,282 --> 00:46:21,512
leaving but it, my parents' town
here is predominantly Caucasian.
:
00:46:22,622 --> 00:46:30,452
And I absolutely fucking love ordering
Starbucks online and there's 50 million
:
00:46:30,452 --> 00:46:35,132
freaking Caucasian people sitting in
there waiting for their order that
:
00:46:35,132 --> 00:46:37,172
didn't think about ordering online.
:
00:46:37,412 --> 00:46:41,492
And you just walk in and you pick
up your order on the counter and you
:
00:46:41,492 --> 00:46:43,322
leave and all of the eyes are on.
:
00:46:43,322 --> 00:46:43,652
You
:
00:46:43,712 --> 00:46:45,272
Shaun: give you the dirtiest lugs.
:
00:46:45,332 --> 00:46:45,632
Peter: Yeah.
:
00:46:45,632 --> 00:46:48,482
I was like, what the fuck is
this little brown person doing?
:
00:46:48,817 --> 00:46:52,477
Little, oh, what is this fat fuck doing?
:
00:46:53,902 --> 00:46:54,937
You say you are not
:
00:46:54,937 --> 00:46:55,177
Shaun: little.
:
00:46:55,177 --> 00:46:55,687
You're very
:
00:46:55,687 --> 00:46:56,167
Peter: tall.
:
00:46:57,367 --> 00:46:58,867
So I know, I'm joking.
:
00:46:59,377 --> 00:47:00,757
What the fuck is he doing?
:
00:47:00,817 --> 00:47:02,587
How did he get his coffee before me?
:
00:47:02,587 --> 00:47:04,417
Why is he getting served before me?
:
00:47:04,627 --> 00:47:11,317
Because I ordered an hour ago to be de
to be ready right now because I knew
:
00:47:11,317 --> 00:47:13,147
your ass would be here to watch me.
:
00:47:14,497 --> 00:47:15,232
That's why I did it.
:
00:47:16,357 --> 00:47:17,557
It's my favorite thing to do.
:
00:47:18,302 --> 00:47:18,962
That is fun.
:
00:47:19,012 --> 00:47:20,962
It's very petty, but it's fun.
:
00:47:21,052 --> 00:47:21,262
Yeah.
:
00:47:21,262 --> 00:47:24,982
During the COVID lockdowns,
that was hysterical.
:
00:47:25,192 --> 00:47:25,762
Oh yeah.
:
00:47:25,762 --> 00:47:27,202
You used to do it constantly.
:
00:47:27,202 --> 00:47:27,742
Yeah.
:
00:47:27,742 --> 00:47:28,972
It was so great.
:
00:47:29,032 --> 00:47:32,032
All you saw were the eyes
over the masks watching you.
:
00:47:32,032 --> 00:47:33,412
You could tell they were pissed.
:
00:47:34,732 --> 00:47:35,332
Shaun: That was, you didn't have to
:
00:47:35,332 --> 00:47:35,992
Peter: see their mouth.
:
00:47:36,082 --> 00:47:36,442
Yeah.
:
00:47:37,672 --> 00:47:39,952
The eyes go all squint
and they look stupid.
:
00:47:40,923 --> 00:47:41,703
Shaun: Oh god.
:
00:47:41,803 --> 00:47:45,583
Before we wrap things up, one thing I
just wanna touch on really quickly is
:
00:47:45,703 --> 00:47:51,913
the obsession with public apologies
that society seems to have now,
:
00:47:52,393 --> 00:47:57,493
and the reason I wanna talk about
it is that it just feels so phony.
:
00:47:57,613 --> 00:47:58,303
Yeah, very
:
00:47:58,303 --> 00:47:59,203
Peter: disingenuous.
:
00:47:59,353 --> 00:48:01,573
Shaun: It feels like they
all follow the same script.
:
00:48:01,603 --> 00:48:03,583
I was young and ignorant.
:
00:48:03,943 --> 00:48:06,403
I'm learning and I'm growing.
:
00:48:06,883 --> 00:48:09,103
This does not reflect on who I am today.
:
00:48:11,173 --> 00:48:15,583
What the hell, what are we getting out of
this other than just watching them grovel?
:
00:48:17,323 --> 00:48:20,893
Peter: We're not getting anything out of
it except for the fact that people can't
:
00:48:20,893 --> 00:48:22,893
own up to the mistakes that they've made.
:
00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:27,483
Age is not an excuse for being an asshole.
:
00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:28,683
Shaun: No, it's
:
00:48:28,683 --> 00:48:29,043
Peter: not.
:
00:48:29,043 --> 00:48:30,753
It's not, and it's not an
excuse when you're old.
:
00:48:30,753 --> 00:48:32,163
It's not an excuse when you're young.
:
00:48:32,463 --> 00:48:35,463
I think that old people are
ruder, but that's just me.
:
00:48:35,853 --> 00:48:36,963
Most of the time they are.
:
00:48:37,263 --> 00:48:41,763
Yeah, because I feel like there's
some sort of decorum, some sort
:
00:48:41,763 --> 00:48:46,538
of unspoken law between younger
people, how you're supposed to act.
:
00:48:47,278 --> 00:48:50,903
But the older people that are sitting
there and they're like, oh, you taught
:
00:48:50,903 --> 00:48:53,363
this kid manners and actually your child.
:
00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:58,328
Yeah, your child taught
that child those manners,
:
00:48:58,448 --> 00:49:00,098
Shaun: so maybe you did a bad job.
:
00:49:00,158 --> 00:49:00,518
Peter: Yeah.
:
00:49:00,518 --> 00:49:02,258
This is a reflection on you.
:
00:49:02,648 --> 00:49:04,268
Shaun: A reflection on you and your kid.
:
00:49:04,268 --> 00:49:04,898
So
:
00:49:05,528 --> 00:49:10,418
Peter: I feel like they're all very
disingenuous when I hear 'em and I don't.
:
00:49:10,778 --> 00:49:12,788
You said what you said you did.
:
00:49:13,028 --> 00:49:14,378
You meant it at the time.
:
00:49:14,528 --> 00:49:17,438
You may not mean it now, but
you meant it at the time.
:
00:49:17,438 --> 00:49:20,408
So just fess up and
move on with your life.
:
00:49:20,558 --> 00:49:23,018
Yeah, because every day is
a new day and it's just.
:
00:49:23,798 --> 00:49:25,898
You're bringing that
shit into the next day.
:
00:49:26,198 --> 00:49:28,148
Shaun: Yeah, absolutely.
:
00:49:28,148 --> 00:49:30,788
You said what you said, don't
blame it on the edit, girl.
:
00:49:30,908 --> 00:49:31,178
Peter: Yeah.
:
00:49:31,178 --> 00:49:32,618
Don't blame it on being young.
:
00:49:32,648 --> 00:49:37,018
That's fucking stupid because
age does not equate to wisdom.
:
00:49:37,858 --> 00:49:38,698
Not at all.
:
00:49:39,148 --> 00:49:43,558
There are people that are much
younger that I find extremely
:
00:49:43,558 --> 00:49:46,738
profound and very knowledgeable.
:
00:49:46,768 --> 00:49:52,048
And there are people that are much older
than me that I find like complete fools.
:
00:49:52,668 --> 00:49:53,898
They're so dumb.
:
00:49:54,498 --> 00:49:58,278
The whole thing that you need to do is
you need to chalk this up to education.
:
00:49:59,328 --> 00:50:04,578
Education is key because that is
how a person makes an informed
:
00:50:04,578 --> 00:50:10,363
decision and an action you can't sit
here and say, I was young and dumb.
:
00:50:10,393 --> 00:50:12,043
No, you were just dumb.
:
00:50:12,433 --> 00:50:14,683
It has nothing to do with
the fact that you were young.
:
00:50:14,683 --> 00:50:15,703
You were just dumb,
:
00:50:16,153 --> 00:50:18,228
Shaun: because old people
do dumb shit too, right?
:
00:50:18,977 --> 00:50:24,377
Peter: Every day you make a decision
and it probably isn't the right one.
:
00:50:24,377 --> 00:50:27,527
It's the right one for you, but
it's not the right one for everyone.
:
00:50:28,037 --> 00:50:31,817
And that is some sort of ignorance.
:
00:50:32,027 --> 00:50:32,657
It is.
:
00:50:33,287 --> 00:50:37,277
But yeah, I don't think that
age really plays a factor.
:
00:50:37,277 --> 00:50:39,072
You can't sit here and
say, I was young and dumb.
:
00:50:39,947 --> 00:50:43,277
You were young and you are dumb.
:
00:50:43,277 --> 00:50:45,677
You're still dumb for making that comment.
:
00:50:46,037 --> 00:50:46,307
Shaun: Okay.
:
00:50:46,367 --> 00:50:51,567
Real quick before we wrap things up
one situation that is very relevant
:
00:50:51,567 --> 00:50:56,367
to what we're talking about right
now that I can think of, 'cause
:
00:50:56,367 --> 00:50:57,537
it has to do with drag queens.
:
00:50:58,257 --> 00:51:04,287
Remember when Ty tried to come for
Irene, the alien online and said
:
00:51:04,317 --> 00:51:07,557
essentially that she was a pedophile?
:
00:51:08,607 --> 00:51:10,197
Yeah, I heard about this.
:
00:51:10,257 --> 00:51:14,007
And then she had to come back and
retract it and say that she shouldn't
:
00:51:14,007 --> 00:51:19,257
have said those things and she
was being young and upset and all.
:
00:51:19,347 --> 00:51:21,207
And how do you feel about that?
:
00:51:21,207 --> 00:51:25,417
Like how do you feel about when people
deliberately do something that they
:
00:51:25,417 --> 00:51:31,477
know is wrong and they know is a lie
and they know is gonna hurt someone,
:
00:51:31,477 --> 00:51:33,067
and then they try to say, oh, I was,
:
00:51:34,237 --> 00:51:35,027
Peter: I think people do it.
:
00:51:36,112 --> 00:51:37,162
For attention.
:
00:51:37,672 --> 00:51:38,512
They just do.
:
00:51:38,572 --> 00:51:39,862
And I think it was stupid.
:
00:51:39,912 --> 00:51:44,742
She reminds me of the monster that
you would think is under your bed.
:
00:51:46,272 --> 00:51:48,552
Her makeup is so strange.
:
00:51:48,552 --> 00:51:50,742
I know she's supposed to
be this anime character.
:
00:51:51,232 --> 00:51:54,802
But she is a very poor reflection
on the Latino community.
:
00:51:55,672 --> 00:51:58,042
You're immature, you're not dumb.
:
00:51:58,042 --> 00:51:59,872
You because you can manipulate people.
:
00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:01,957
Yeah, so you're not stupid.
:
00:52:01,957 --> 00:52:06,227
I think that having the ability
to be manipulative means you're
:
00:52:06,227 --> 00:52:07,667
a hyper intelligent person.
:
00:52:08,127 --> 00:52:11,937
You're very in tune with how
people will react, so you know
:
00:52:11,937 --> 00:52:13,677
how to manipulate their feelings.
:
00:52:14,667 --> 00:52:17,787
She's just a poor fucking
excuse for a human being.
:
00:52:17,787 --> 00:52:22,317
I don't condo and people saying things
just to be hateful and spiteful.
:
00:52:23,342 --> 00:52:25,892
If that's how you feel,
it's a private conversation.
:
00:52:25,892 --> 00:52:30,212
Just because you have a platform does
not mean you get to air your fucking
:
00:52:30,212 --> 00:52:35,702
dirty, nasty, skidmark frigging panties
out there to, for the world to see.
:
00:52:36,872 --> 00:52:37,382
Yeah.
:
00:52:37,682 --> 00:52:40,352
Your life is not more
important than another.
:
00:52:40,802 --> 00:52:41,162
No, absolutely.
:
00:52:42,737 --> 00:52:47,222
So stop trying to ruin someone else's life
because you can't clean your own jaws.
:
00:52:47,912 --> 00:52:48,122
Shaun: Hmm.
:
00:52:49,292 --> 00:52:50,192
Well said.
:
00:52:50,852 --> 00:52:51,752
There you have it.
:
00:52:52,052 --> 00:52:55,922
Some people rise from the ashes,
like a messy queer phoenix.
:
00:52:56,582 --> 00:52:59,282
Others just disappear
into the Twitter void.
:
00:53:00,062 --> 00:53:03,572
Either way, we're still here
spiraling on your behalf and
:
00:53:03,572 --> 00:53:07,772
remember, if you're going to get
canceled, at least make it me worthy.
:
00:53:08,942 --> 00:53:10,892
Because redemption is possible.
:
00:53:11,792 --> 00:53:13,322
Only if you can laugh at yourself.
:
00:53:13,532 --> 00:53:15,392
Otherwise the internet will do it for you.
:
00:53:16,112 --> 00:53:17,942
So spiral responsibly kids.
:
00:53:18,602 --> 00:53:22,322
And if you do get canceled, just
drop a thirst trap and rebrand.
:
00:53:24,662 --> 00:53:24,752
Ew.
:
00:53:26,292 --> 00:53:27,612
We will talk to you next time.
:
00:53:27,792 --> 00:53:28,092
Bye bye.
