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Episode 34

Outrage Olympics: Taking Gold in Everyday Drama

Could you win a medal in daily overreacting? This week on Apocalypse and Avocados, Peter and Shaun are letting their inner drama athletes run wild. From waking up annoyed at headlines or breakfast pics, to getting irrationally heated at almond milk recommendations, they dive into 21st-century emotional gymnastics—no actual fitness required.

Peter admits to his championship-level deadpan face, while Shaun breaks down the weird thrill of group chat drama and why TikTok rage-bait is impossible to resist. Whether it’s the hypnotic videos of melting metal, the doomscroll spiral, or suspiciously accurate social feeds, the guys unpack how online life turns everyday irritations into full-blown sporting events.

So lace up your emotionally-sensible sneakers and grab your favorite unnecessary snack. It’s time to laugh about why we compete to be the most exasperated person in the room—and how hilarious (and human) that actually is.

Subscribe for weekly catharsis, relatable confessions, and those hot takes you’re secretly proud of!

Transcript
Shaun:

Okay, let's be honest.

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If outrage was an Olympic sport, I'd

have more gold than Simone Biles.

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It's Shaun.

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And this morning I rage scrolled

myself into being mad at a stranger's

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breakfast order, and then argued with the

Starbucks app for suggesting almond milk.

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If you've ever trained for the group

chat, drama, decathlon cursed at trending

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topics before brushing your teeth.

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Or secretly competed for the most

dramatic eye roll during a news headline.

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Congratulations, you are

already in the finals This week.

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We're awarding medals in emotional

gymnastics, synchronized over

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reactions in marathon sub-tweeting.

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So grab your anger, snacks, put on

your judgy sweatbands, and stretch

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those hot takes 'cause the outrage

Olympics are officially underway.

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Apocalypse and avocados.

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Peter: Welcome back,

Apocalypse and avocados.

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It's Peter and Shaun here.

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How are you doing today?

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Pretty good.

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Pretty good.

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Good, good, good.

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Definitely been a hot week.

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Oh, yes.

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Melting.

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And our dog is just like, mm, no,

I don't wanna do this anymore.

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Every

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Shaun: activity is he's so excited for it,

but then when he's done, he is exhausted.

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Peter: I know his pain but it brings us

around to what we're here to discuss.

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So have you ever woken up angry about

something you don't even care about?

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Shaun: I feel like it happens

to me every single day.

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Peter: How do you mean?

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Like when you're looking at

tiktoks or when you just.

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Just wake up in general,

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Shaun: it can go both ways.

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I feel like sometimes I'll wake up and

I'm just angry and I don't know why, and

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then I start looking through my newsfeed

or at the headlines and then I see, or

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what I assume is what's making me angry.

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Other times I wake up and I'm

in a perfectly good mood, and

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then I start scrolling and then.

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The spiraling, just like

induces or ensues, I should say.

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Peter: Yeah, and it's always

something that's so mundane that

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pisses you off, whether it's somebody

just making their coffee and then

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let's go, come along with me.

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Well, I pack my husband's lunch.

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Fucking annoying.

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Shaun: I was craving carrot cake.

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So I made some carrot cake cookies

for my husband and my kids.

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Peter: Yeah.

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And they weren't even made out of carrots.

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They were made out of pineapple

and hopes and dreams or,

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Shaun: okay.

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And this is maybe getting a little too

specific, but there's the people who

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do the kitchen tiktoks or the cooking.

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Mm-hmm.

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And they're in these very fancy.

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Outfits, these gorgeous dresses.

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Yeah.

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Peter: The formal ladies, excuse

me, who the hell cooks like that?

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And they're always in white.

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Shaun: Yes.

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Why is it white C?

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Can we talk about white for a minute?

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I pulled a white t-shirt out

over the weekend and said I'm, as

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soon as I pulled it out, I said I

should probably not put this on.

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Yeah, that is, we were going out to

breakfast and I just had a feeling

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I was gonna get something on myself

before we even left the house.

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I got something on myself.

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Peter: Yeah.

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And then you had to leave with

a big red splotch on yourself.

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Yes.

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It's crazy.

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I don't understand how they do this.

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It's so annoying too.

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But it shouldn't be, it

really just induces the rage.

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It really does.

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Yeah.

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It's oh, okay, why are

we competing about this?

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Why should, why is this pissing me off?

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Do you know what

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Shaun: trend had me rage

spiraling for a while?

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What do you remember the girl who came

on and she says, if you're not showering

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after the club, what are you even doing?

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Peter: No, I don't remember this.

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Oh my God.

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Shaun: I wanted to reach to the

phone and just I don't know.

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Turn the heat up on her

shower or something.

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Peter: Scalding, just

melt the tits right off.

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Shaun: What am I doing after the club?

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Probably binge eating and passing out

somewhere that I'm not supposed to be.

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That's why I don't go to the club anymore.

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Peter: We're too old for that

shit and nevermind wearing

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a white dress at the club.

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But yeah it's honestly like the

algorithm is programmed and it

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actually is to prey on our rage.

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Because we end up watching something

and it's just one of those things where

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you watch them and you can't look away.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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But you

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Peter: hate yourself for watching it.

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Shaun: There are so many things that

I, as I'm watching it, I think to

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myself, oh, this makes me so mad.

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And then I just keep watching it.

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It's like I need

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Peter: to

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Shaun: continue watching it.

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Peter: Like anytime.

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What's her name?

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Bubert.

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Comes up, God instant rage.

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Yep.

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But you can't look away

because it's so stupid.

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And if you look away, you're gonna

miss all the stupid things she says.

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But you hate yourself for watching it.

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And you feel

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Shaun: so much dumber.

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Peter: Yes.

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Your IQ definitely draws

at least 30 points.

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That's ridiculous.

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It's

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Shaun: interesting how

they can make you feel.

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So much smarter and so much

dumber all at the same time.

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Peter: Yeah.

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Make yourself feel smarter

for how dumb they are.

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Shaun: Yeah.

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But then also you think to them

yourself, I just listened to this.

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What does that mean for

my intelligence level?

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Yeah.

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Peter: What does this mean about me?

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But everyone, you're not alone.

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So the algorithm is

actually designed that way.

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So push on your, for you content.

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Content.

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They know based on what you've

watched, what will incite your rage.

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And because they know if they piss

you off, you will stay on the page.

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You will stay on the page, or you will go

into a competition level where you feel

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like you need to be better than, so your

TikTok is gonna be better than theirs.

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It's gonna be the best thing you ever did.

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Shaun: This is the same thing that

we talked about before with the don't

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comment or interact on posts mm-hmm.

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That you don't agree with, that you

don't want to see more of because it's

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just going to take that interaction

as something to feed the algorithm

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more so that they can keep pumping you

things that you're gonna interact with.

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Peter: Yeah.

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And it's designed so that they

can continue to make money.

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Exactly.

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And we're feeding it.

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We're feeding it.

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It's so stupid.

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I don't know how they decided

that this would be a thing.

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I mean, I guess so, because Trump became

president first he preyed on everyone's

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rage and then they were like, oh,

okay, well this works, so let's try it.

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Yeah.

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Shaun: It makes sense.

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I suppose when you look at the

history of the success that it's had.

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Peter: What's the most outrageous

thing that you've gotten mad about

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that you really shouldn't have?

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Just watching.

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Or seeing that I shouldn't have.

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Yeah.

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That you hate yourself

for being mad at it.

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Shaun: Oh my goodness.

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I'm trying to think.

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I know there was something I saw just

the other day and I was Oh, oh, oh.

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Remember those?

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Fridge scapes?

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Peter: Oh God, that was awful.

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What was that all about?

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Who's gonna sit here and build

an entire like village in their

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fridge and then complete it with

jars and juice and everything

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that's supposed to be part of it?

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There was no room for the groceries.

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Yeah, the groceries were built into it.

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Like the eggs or, and stuff.

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Some that, a lot of the stuff

that was in there was not edible.

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No, it wasn't.

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It's so ridiculous.

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But that also brings us to

another TikTok trend right now

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that it's absolutely insane.

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Did you know, we actually just

recently saw this there is a new TikTok

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trend where teens phone themselves

going to kick people's doors going

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up to their doors at night and

kicking them and then filming it.

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How dumb can you be?

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Shaun: Okay.

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I have a few thoughts on this one.

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Yes.

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You're a fucking idiot if someone did

that at my house, I would be so pissed.

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But also, that sounds like something

I would've done when I was a teenager.

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Peter: Yeah, but you

wouldn't have filmed it.

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No, it's, and we didn't have

ring doorbells back then, so you,

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no matter what you're caught.

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Your dumb ass put that up online too.

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Shaun: Oh yeah.

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See, that's not smart.

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Peter: That is just asking to get caught.

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Now they know your face and they have your

foot impression on the neighbor's door.

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Who's called the cops?

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You, oh my God.

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Where are these trends coming from?

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That really just pisses me off.

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I know, but I have a question.

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Shaun: Where did these

dance trends come from?

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Because I saw the one for gnarly.

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By cat's eye or cat?

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Is that how Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cat's eye.

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And it's awesome.

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And I saw the two choreographers who, I

believe they're the two that started it,

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but how does one, how does this begin?

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How does it start?

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How does it, you just put it up and such,

you're lucky enough that it catches on?

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Peter: Yeah, I guess so.

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I really don't know.

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Some people are just really good at it.

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Some people actually just

get the choreography from the

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video or a live performance.

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Oh, okay.

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And then they just learn.

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That was like the.

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The Beyonce one.

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Okay.

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That one was all over.

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And that one, that one

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Shaun: pissed me off at first.

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I liked it 'cause it was good.

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It was good dance moves.

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It was fun.

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But then it was every other fucking video.

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Peter: Yeah.

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But they knew that you would keep

watching 'cause it was gonna piss you off.

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Yeah.

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I suppose you're right.

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They kept pushing it.

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I don't know how many freaking people

we saw doing that stupid trend.

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It.

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And it's stupid now, but it

was cool at the beginning.

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Oh, you know what

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Shaun: other one?

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I've talked about this before and I loved

it, but I also, 'cause it was funny, but

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I also am starting to hate it, although

I haven't seen it in a while though.

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The cutting the tube, the tube video.

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Yeah, the cutting, the breathing tube.

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The first couple were great, and

then I was like, okay, I've seen this

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Peter: a lot.

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Yes.

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So like with the algorithm, we

talked about it, how it's gonna

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keep pushing it to piss you off.

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They've actually done research on

this and the emotional responses they

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get, they attribute to certain things.

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So anger equals more clicks and comments

equals more money for the platform.

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Oh.

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So they want you to get pissed.

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They want you to do all of these

negative comments because every

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time you leave one, they make money.

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Shaun: Huh.

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Peter: So it is ridiculous.

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People need to educate themselves on

this a little bit, but also before

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we get into our little game here.

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Did you know I am disgusted by those

videos where people are doing the

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fights and there Oh yeah, but you can't

look away because it's so barbaric.

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Everybody looks like frigging

feeding time at the zoo.

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It's like

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Shaun: when there was that big fight.

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I don't remember where it was.

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I wanna say it was somewhere in

the south at the, like boat dock.

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Oh, the tier?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And the white people got their

asses handed to them, rightfully so.

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But it was insanity.

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It was hard to watch.

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But knowing the context around

it, like you feel a little bit.

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More, for lack of better word

to say it, you feel a little bit

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more okay with what was going on.

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Not that anyone, not that you want to

see anyone like beaten down in that way.

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Peter: Yeah.

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You don't wanna see them down in that

way, but you also wanna see the outcome

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because you're so angry for them.

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Yeah.

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Knowing the context of the situation,

and then you just wanna know what's

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going on and then at the end you hate

yourself for continuing to watch it.

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You're like, yeah,

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Shaun: you know, what is

another one that's like that?

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The the fails.

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The ones where people get Oh, yeah.

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Injured.

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And you, it's specifically the ones where

they do something stupid and they get

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injured and you want to laugh and you

want to feel bad all at the same time.

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You just don't really know how to react.

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Peter: Like the ones that go

out of the sunroof and then

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hit one of the signs or branch.

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Those ones are bad because I can imagine

getting hit that fast in the face.

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I really hate.

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But find it hysterical when they do

these ring things where they're in

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the ring and then they do the crazy

flip off like the ropes and then

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their legs bend the opposite way.

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It's so cringey, but it's so funny to me

because it's like you were an asshole.

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You fucked around and found

out, and now you're a flamingo.

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Oh my god.

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Shaun: It.

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Yeah.

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Remember the one I sent the other

day with the lady on the zip line?

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Yeah.

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Don't let go.

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And then she like flips over.

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Yeah.

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Peter: She like bust her ass because she

didn't really let go though, didn't you?

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She like, I don't know, but she fell off.

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She hits air.

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Yeah.

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And she did that flip.

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It was crazy.

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But yeah, studies show that we

think everyone's angrier than they

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are because outrage is getting

promoted on all these socials.

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Hmm.

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So what we want is we wanna invite

our listeners to think about the

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last time they really got upset

about something online whether

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mattered that day or a day later.

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Just drop us a comment on that.

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We wanna hear the last time you

raged about something that you saw.

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Anyway, moving into our little game.

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Are you ready to play D Lulu Effectual?

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I'm ready.

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Alright, so first up, a Burger King

in Sweden offered therapy sessions

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for customers upset about soggy fries.

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Shaun: No.

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It?

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Yes.

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Peter: D Lulu or factual?

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Shaun: It's so d lulu,

I'm gonna say factual.

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Peter: You should have went

with your gut instinct.

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It was d Lulu.

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While Swedish businesses get

creative, there's no therapy

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for fast food heartbreak yet.

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All right.

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Number two, a man tried to sue Netflix for

emotional damages after binge watching a

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docuseries and missing a work deadline.

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Factual, correct.

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Ding, ding, ding, ding.

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In 2024, a California man attempted it.

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Judge tossed the case within a day.

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Wow.

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None of that shit.

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All right.

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Number three, a group started a

petition to ban Mondays worldwide, and

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50,000 people signed it in a month.

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I'm gonna go with D Lulu.

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Wrong.

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No.

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Really factual.

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Yes.

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Actually, an online petition in 2023

started as a joke, collected tens

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of thousands of real signatures.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Number four, French lawmakers debated

an official government ban on people

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saying Slay or Yas Queen on national tv.

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No,

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Shaun: that's de lubo,

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Peter: correct?

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It was totally made up.

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French bureaucracy is wild,

but not a meme verse yet.

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All right, last question.

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A town in Utah had to cancel

its annual tomato fight festival

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after talkers kept live streaming.

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Fake injuries for sympathy donations.

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Oh my God.

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Factual.

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Yeah.

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These Gen Zs are crazy.

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In 2025, this really happened.

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Event organizers cited viral clout

chasing for canceling the festival.

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Wow.

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These people will do anything.

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No wonder they wanna ban TikTok.

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I didn't even know there was a tomato.

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Like throughout tossing

festival tomato fight.

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It sounds so medieval.

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It does, but it also sounds

like something you would watch

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and hate yourself for watching.

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Yes.

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I mean, I don't, they have.

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But they have weird festivals like that.

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Let's just put it that way.

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Shaun: They have a, I don't know where

this is, but I know this somewhere.

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They have a cheese running festival where

they like run with a big wheel of cheese.

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Peter: They roll it down the hill.

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I think that's in Wisconsin.

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I don't know where it is.

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Yeah don't come for me.

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I don't know.

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I don't

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Shaun: even know if he's in this

country, but it might not be.

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Peter: I think.

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I think I've seen it.

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The one where they're like hitting it

with the little bat to keep it going.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God.

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Such weird things that you could actually

harm yourself though with the cheese.

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Yeah.

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It's so big he get crushed.

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Shaun: It's so big.

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Help me outta that one.

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That would be my luck.

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I'd get rolled my, if it rolled

over my foot or something,

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Peter: it would roll over you.

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You would be running down and you'd fall

and bust your ass and you're rolling.

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The thing crushes your rib cage.

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I'd

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Shaun: just be stuck to it.

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It'd be rolling.

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It'd be rolling over.

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You'd just see the flat Shaun

going around and around.

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Peter: That would be insane.

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I don't even wanna do that.

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I don't like the running

with the bulls thing either.

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No, that freak you out.

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Oh my God.

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I would, Nope, Nope.

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I would just lay down the bull.

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Could take me, Jesus.

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Take the wheel there.

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I'm probably over it.

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You would not catch me.

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I probably would be in like the

crowd throwing tomatoes at people.

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It's again, one of those things that

you would watch cringe and still watch.

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Yes.

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I agree.

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See the rage, it puts that rage in

you that I don't understand how a

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video can make you fight or flight.

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Shaun: I don't really know,

but I guess I don't know.

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Peter: It hits that part of your psyche.

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So good thing that you said that actually

they have done studies to see, how

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tiktoks and videos and social media

insights, dopamine and cortisol so

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that they can continue to push negative

media that will interact, keep you fat.

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Yes.

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Keep you fat and stressed.

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So I guess I'm just, I'm

not fat, I'm just stressed.

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Just

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Shaun: extremely stressed

due to the algorithm.

441

:

Exactly.

442

:

Peter: It's always for me.

443

:

It's not pushing like

the fights or anything.

444

:

I really hate those.

445

:

I hate when people show me them.

446

:

It makes me so angry.

447

:

See, and this is what we're talking about.

448

:

It shouldn't, it shouldn't,

I'm not involved.

449

:

I didn't start it.

450

:

I shouldn't hate myself

for watching it, but I do.

451

:

I was gonna say, you're not

even watching it right now.

452

:

I know.

453

:

And it's pissing me off.

454

:

Okay.

455

:

So another thing is, and I only saw

her recently about the Hawk Girl.

456

:

I heard all about her and I, oh God.

457

:

I could, I knew what it was without

anybody even telling me what it was like.

458

:

She is exactly what I pictured

she would look like by hearing

459

:

what she was talking about.

460

:

Yeah.

461

:

And it made me so angry.

462

:

No one needs to be that crass,

let alone that disgusting.

463

:

So, yeah.

464

:

What did you think about that?

465

:

Did that get your rage fire going?

466

:

I just thought she sounded

467

:

Shaun: like an idiot.

468

:

I'm not saying anything she

said wasn't like factual, but.

469

:

There are better ways to say things.

470

:

Yeah.

471

:

And like fine, be as sex

positive as you want.

472

:

But you can still, you can do

that in a more attractive way.

473

:

Peter: Yeah.

474

:

I have some sense of decorum.

475

:

You don't just need to do it,

just do that right on the news.

476

:

But be mindful, be demure.

477

:

But the, apparently she was linked

to some viral crypto scandal.

478

:

Did you know that?

479

:

No.

480

:

Yeah, I didn't either.

481

:

I don't know like the specifics on it.

482

:

But apparently she like got

such a high demand for it,

483

:

that the stock went up for it.

484

:

She like convinced a bunch of people,

as far as I know, to buy the crypto.

485

:

And then some sort of scandal

happened and it plummeted.

486

:

So a lot of people's

lives were like ruined.

487

:

Shaun: Oh, wow.

488

:

Peter: Yeah.

489

:

I don't know.

490

:

But I guess moral of the story

is the outrage cycle here.

491

:

It moves on, but people in

real lives can be wrecked.

492

:

So if somebody goes, talk to us,

stay the fuck away from them.

493

:

Just saying.

494

:

Shaun: Yeah, no, I

would stay away because.

495

:

You don't know where that mouth has been.

496

:

Peter: Okay, so you are just

talking sex positive here.

497

:

It's also this, it used to be,

it is rageful the cancel culture.

498

:

Like every time someone's trying

to cancel someone and it's always

499

:

over some ridiculous thing.

500

:

Like I have no idea.

501

:

No idea.

502

:

I just know that there was

some like lewd comments.

503

:

And some sort of uncomfortability.

504

:

But the Blake Lively Justin Bel thing, do

you know exactly what's going on there?

505

:

'cause I don't No, but

I heard that she backed

506

:

Shaun: down.

507

:

Peter: Yeah, I heard that she

was waving the white flag.

508

:

But I have idea like what this was That

is just 'cause he was uncomfortable.

509

:

I saw the thing where they

were dancing slow dancing while

510

:

they were filming and I just.

511

:

I don't really know the extent of it.

512

:

Shaun: Yeah, I don't really know the

extent of it either, to be honest.

513

:

I just know that one of them made

allegations against the other and then

514

:

the other one was counter suing and

515

:

Peter: Yeah, they dropped his lawsuit.

516

:

Shaun: Yeah, they threw it out, right?

517

:

Yeah,

518

:

Peter: it was $400 million he was suing.

519

:

I know that he was suing

them for their net worth.

520

:

Oh, Brian Reynolds and Blake Lively,

but also in Celebrity News that

521

:

has been pissing me off as well,

that it's even news is the Beyonce,

522

:

Jay-Z the paternity test now turns

out that he's had two children.

523

:

He fathered two children

outside of the marriage.

524

:

One of them was before Beyonce, and

I believe the second one was during.

525

:

Wow.

526

:

Yeah, so she's pissed and apparently

they're saying that there's a divorce

527

:

coming, but why the fuck is this?

528

:

It's so annoying.

529

:

Why is this news?

530

:

Shaun: I really don't know why people's

personal lives have to be news.

531

:

Even including what happened

with the CEO and the HR person.

532

:

They granted it was.

533

:

In a way.

534

:

Hilarious.

535

:

It wasn't necessarily something

that needed to be all over the news.

536

:

Peter: No, it didn't.

537

:

It didn't even need to be on

the megatron to be honest.

538

:

Shaun: I, I mean,

539

:

Peter: were they doing it just 'cause

they were cute, acting cute Coly?

540

:

I don't know.

541

:

But he's trying to sue

542

:

Shaun: Coldplay.

543

:

Peter: Yeah.

544

:

We'll see how that goes for him.

545

:

'cause

546

:

Shaun: he's lost everything.

547

:

His wife wants a $50 million divorce.

548

:

His kids won't talk to him.

549

:

Job.

550

:

What the fuck?

551

:

Lost his job.

552

:

He, the CEO of astronomer.

553

:

It was a tech company in New York or

554

:

Peter: something.

555

:

Oh, okay.

556

:

He definitely has the money then.

557

:

So Sue away, Sue away.

558

:

No, Sue him.

559

:

Not Coldplay.

560

:

It's not their fault.

561

:

And they don't, what did they

think that was gonna happen?

562

:

Like they don't.

563

:

Sit there with the cameras themselves

and just pan out to the balcony.

564

:

So that was clearly their team.

565

:

Shaun: Yeah.

566

:

Somebody else saw it, somebody

else submitted that, that footage.

567

:

They got it off the Megatron

or whatever it's called.

568

:

They, you can't, you

cannot blame the band.

569

:

That's not their fault in

any way, shape, or form.

570

:

Peter: Yeah.

571

:

Shaun: That you had an affair.

572

:

And got caught.

573

:

Peter: Yeah.

574

:

Publicly.

575

:

Shaun: You went to a public

event and got caught on video.

576

:

Yeah.

577

:

Peter: And you're the CEO that you have,

that means you have a lot of people

578

:

working for you, working under you.

579

:

You went to a concert with your

mistress, not knowing that any of

580

:

your employees could be there as well.

581

:

Mm-hmm.

582

:

Come on.

583

:

You're not the only

person that likes Coldplay

584

:

Shaun: for real.

585

:

And as CEO, I'm sure there's

a lot of people who work.

586

:

You or have worked under

you that fucking hate you.

587

:

So think about these things before

you put yourself into a situation

588

:

where you're gonna ruin your own life

589

:

Peter: and someone else's.

590

:

Your kids, your family.

591

:

Mm-hmm.

592

:

Everything.

593

:

Shaun: Yeah.

594

:

'cause it's not just his life.

595

:

That's you in shambles right now.

596

:

It's all of 'em.

597

:

Peter: Yeah.

598

:

And they, no one thinks about others,

they just think about themselves.

599

:

Yeah.

600

:

Pretty much.

601

:

Really, really sad.

602

:

But anyway the viral posts that are going

out there, have you seen any that have

603

:

just made you been like, how dare they?

604

:

And they just stick in your brain.

605

:

Oh

606

:

Shaun: my God.

607

:

I know, I have, nothing's

coming to mind at the moment.

608

:

Like nothing recent, aside

609

:

Peter: from the Greta Thunberg

thing that, that made me so mad.

610

:

Oh the Flotilla?

611

:

Yeah.

612

:

Like it just sits there in my brain.

613

:

Oh.

614

:

Oh.

615

:

No, I lost it.

616

:

Find it again.

617

:

Dig it up.

618

:

It's gone.

619

:

It's gone.

620

:

But apparently just like throwing

this out as an example, do you

621

:

know what the Gen Z stare is?

622

:

Oh,

623

:

Shaun: I read about this,

but I don't remember.

624

:

I remember I, I had mentioned it to

you like a couple weeks ago, but yeah,

625

:

Peter: but I don't know what it is.

626

:

I don't think I've ever seen it.

627

:

Is it just stoned?

628

:

I dunno anything?

629

:

I don't think so.

630

:

Apparently there's like a war that

blew up online about, and almost nobody

631

:

remembers who started it, but I don't

even know what the Gen Z stare is.

632

:

Shaun: I want to say it's like

their version of resting bitch

633

:

face, but I could be wrong.

634

:

Peter: So it's their, I wanna

speak to the manager face.

635

:

Shaun: I think, but

636

:

Peter: I don't even know.

637

:

You

638

:

Shaun: can find out.

639

:

Yeah,

640

:

Peter: I wanna find out 'cause

I don't know what this is.

641

:

But also.

642

:

I would, going back to those studies

they show that negative slash high

643

:

arousal posts travel two to three

times further than neutral ones.

644

:

So that means anytime that you put up

something that incites some sort of rage

645

:

in somebody that is gonna travel three

times faster than a neutral one that is

646

:

supposed to help others or just be calm

and say, oh, I got a Diet Coke today.

647

:

Oh, so anytime you do that, they're

gonna push it three times harder

648

:

just to piss off the other person

so they can click on the other end.

649

:

Shaun: Interesting.

650

:

Peter: Yeah.

651

:

So do you feel like anything like that's

come through to you has been because

652

:

the algorithm wants you to be angry?

653

:

Shaun: Oh yeah.

654

:

That makes a lot more sense now.

655

:

Peter: Can you think of

a video or anything or

656

:

Shaun: on Instagram or something?

657

:

I get a lot of the super right wing

bullshit that gets pushed to me.

658

:

Oh yeah.

659

:

Yep.

660

:

So like I find myself thinking,

oh, where did all this come from?

661

:

But yeah, so I don't, that makes

sense, 'cause it would piss me off.

662

:

Peter: That's a huge one.

663

:

Especially in the United

States at this moment in time.

664

:

Due to the political climate,

they have been pushing the GOP and

665

:

right-wing media on anybody that has

a rainbow and their title queer or

666

:

identifies in the LGBT community.

667

:

Well, that makes even more sense because

they know that if you do it, they're

668

:

apt to pu, you're apt to reshare it

and then put negativity all over it.

669

:

Which then will piss off other people and

will continue to get clicks and comments.

670

:

The comments again, pay their bills.

671

:

Yep.

672

:

Shaun: And this is why you don't interact

with content you don't agree with.

673

:

Peter: Exactly.

674

:

So if you retweet something that

has to do with politics, that

675

:

you are furthering the issue.

676

:

Yeah.

677

:

You're furthering the issue and

you're gonna push it out, and then

678

:

three other people are gonna see it.

679

:

Those three people are gonna

send it to three other people.

680

:

It's just gonna stay out there.

681

:

So don't interact with it.

682

:

Just don't do it.

683

:

It's not that deep.

684

:

It's not that chill, not that deep.

685

:

Shaun: I have the Gen Zs there for you.

686

:

I was sorta of, right.

687

:

It's a viral term, used to describe

distinct facial expression and body

688

:

language, often associated with Gen Z.

689

:

Typically characterized by a blank

emotionless, borderline confrontational

690

:

stare that become both a meme and

a low key generational symbol.

691

:

No smile, no reaction, just deadpan, stare

eyebrows, relaxed or slightly furrowed.

692

:

Often accompanied by

stillness or slouched posture.

693

:

Peter: Oh, okay.

694

:

So my normal state, my resting state, I

don't understand how that's even a thing.

695

:

And what do they think

that's gonna accomplish?

696

:

Shaun: I don't know.

697

:

I think this is the part that makes

it specifically Gen Z sometimes paired

698

:

with chewing gum and iced coffee, or a

phone held up for a selfie or TikTok.

699

:

Peter: Okay, so can we, I have misophonia.

700

:

So hearing noises like chewing or

snapping or slurping, specifically

701

:

mouse mouth noises set me on edge.

702

:

I hate seeing the muck bang videos.

703

:

Hate them.

704

:

I can't look away and now I hate

myself for watching them consume

705

:

this amount of food and then

continue to talk that Really?

706

:

Yeah.

707

:

Shaun: Okay.

708

:

So that reminds me of something

that annoys the shut out

709

:

of me is the A SMR videos.

710

:

Mm-hmm.

711

:

Yeah.

712

:

I don't know why, but there's

something about those sounds

713

:

that drives me absolutely insane.

714

:

Peter: Yeah, it's specifically the ones

where it's like the gel, the jelly,

715

:

the jello ones where they're like,

716

:

Shaun: the only ones that I kind of like

are the ones with the girls will click

717

:

their long acrylic nails on things.

718

:

Yeah,

719

:

Peter: what is that?

720

:

Or

721

:

Shaun: Rub them on, drag

them down thing that those,

722

:

sometimes that one is okay to me.

723

:

But all, pretty much all of

the other ones drive me nuts.

724

:

Ones where they tap on the, don't

tap on the fricking microphone.

725

:

Peter: They tap on their microphone,

they're whispering, and then they

726

:

have the, where they rub stuff on it.

727

:

Yeah.

728

:

They rub the balloon on it,

729

:

Shaun: or they break something

in front of the microphone.

730

:

Like styrofoam or rice, crispy tree.

731

:

Yeah.

732

:

And they have

733

:

Peter: the slime ones where it has

the little nerds looking things in it.

734

:

Yeah.

735

:

That drives me.

736

:

Bonkers, but that your algorithm knows

that, so it's gonna keep pushing it.

737

:

Shaun: You know what else drives makes

me feel weird, but I love watching it.

738

:

Those so satisfying videos

where they're like, oh, I

739

:

Peter: love those.

740

:

I hate that.

741

:

I can spend hours watching those.

742

:

Especially with the ones where

you're like, they're packing shit.

743

:

Mm-hmm.

744

:

Where they're cutting stuff

745

:

Shaun: or where they're like

reorganizing their house somewhere in

746

:

Asia with these appliances and yeah.

747

:

The tools that are not

available to me and I need

748

:

Peter: the 15 million boxes that they

open, the husband goes to work and

749

:

Shaun: they pull out boxes on their closet

and then like when the husband comes.

750

:

Doesn't even know that there's new stuff

in the house because it's all put away.

751

:

Peter: Yeah.

752

:

Everything's like battery powered too.

753

:

Everything, even their little cookers.

754

:

It must

755

:

Shaun: be expensive for batteries.

756

:

Yeah,

757

:

Peter: it must be.

758

:

They are more energy efficient though.

759

:

Shaun: Yeah.

760

:

Peter: But yeah, the ones where

they do that and then they have the.

761

:

Like the ones with the Shivas.

762

:

So we have a Shiba, so we love Shivas,

but we wash the ones where they wash them.

763

:

That one, the sounds on

that one don't bother me.

764

:

It's not the sounds, it's the absurdity

of the bath time that these dogs have.

765

:

They're like rubbing around their

eyes and their ears and they have

766

:

Shaun: a more fancy routine than me.

767

:

Peter: Yeah.

768

:

And then they bang the

little gong and the cymbals.

769

:

Yeah.

770

:

And then they wash them.

771

:

They have that little gun

that shoots the foam out.

772

:

I don't want it, but I need it.

773

:

Yeah.

774

:

And it's so stupid.

775

:

And then did you see the one

where they put him in the, they

776

:

have a little dryer for the dog.

777

:

Yes, I've seen that.

778

:

It's like they put their

dog in the microwave.

779

:

Okay.

780

:

So that,

781

:

Shaun: that freaks me out

anytime I see someone using it.

782

:

'cause I think of urban legends

with the dog in the microwave.

783

:

Peter: Oh my God.

784

:

They're not gonna explode and

then they go in there willingly.

785

:

It's really sad.

786

:

I, but I want the dog dryer

and I really don't need it.

787

:

No.

788

:

Our dog hates taking baths and he

goes to a groomer, so we don't need

789

:

it, but I want the little thing.

790

:

You still want it?

791

:

Yeah.

792

:

I hate myself for wanting it.

793

:

Shaun: Oh, last one.

794

:

I promise.

795

:

You know what other videos I

love but hate at the same time.

796

:

The ones where they take that really

hot ball of metal or stone and

797

:

they drop it into different things.

798

:

Peter: Yep.

799

:

Shaun: That one,

800

:

Peter: the orbies, they drop it

in the orbies, none of them pop.

801

:

Shaun: They drop it into

all different stuff.

802

:

I like it freaks me out when they

put it into glasses and stuff

803

:

'cause I know they're gonna shatter.

804

:

It's just a matter of when.

805

:

Peter: Apparently they're pretty dart.

806

:

They, it takes a while.

807

:

Sometimes it does.

808

:

I like the ones where they put them

under the pressure thing like, oh yeah.

809

:

The hydraulic pressure thing.

810

:

And then they either explode or the

Play-Doh like shoots up through Those

811

:

things are so satisfying, but I hate

that I can't stop watching them.

812

:

Shaun: Yeah.

813

:

Peter: I've literally an hour

can go by and of my life and

814

:

I am still watching them.

815

:

So, yeah, I've been there.

816

:

Plus you get to the point like, I don't

know if anyone else feels this way.

817

:

It's probably just me, but I go

looking for them on Snapchat sometimes.

818

:

Yeah.

819

:

In the morning, you know when everyone's

going out and taking their morning shit.

820

:

Scroll.

821

:

Always

822

:

Shaun: going back to shit.

823

:

Always going back to shit.

824

:

With this one,

825

:

Peter: it's not the point.

826

:

Everyone does it in the morning,

and if you don't, you should try.

827

:

But yeah, I scroll right over to

the Snapchat and I look for the so

828

:

sad, annoying ones and then I'm just

stuck there, hovering for an hour.

829

:

You don't really need to go.

830

:

Someone else needs to use the bathroom.

831

:

But you don't care because you're watching

the pasta get cut by this machine.

832

:

That shouldn't be a thing, but it's great.

833

:

But

834

:

Shaun: It is a thing.

835

:

Peter: Yes.

836

:

So with that, we have a little

challenge for our listeners too.

837

:

Try to spend 20 minutes online today

without reacting to any outrage.

838

:

DM us what you noticed if you

were relieved, bored, worried.

839

:

Or you miss something.

840

:

Shaun: Yeah, let us know.

841

:

Peter: Be really interested.

842

:

It's for science.

843

:

Yes, our scientific purposes.

844

:

We wanna know if we're

fucked up or if everyone is.

845

:

So please.

846

:

So another thing is, we've

talked about it a little bit

847

:

before but the victim Olympics.

848

:

Yes.

849

:

So social media has a trauma competition.

850

:

Always, and everyone's competing

for who's got it worse.

851

:

And you could, you can tell me so

you're blue in the face that you

852

:

have not seen something like this.

853

:

Oh, I, yeah.

854

:

Mm-hmm.

855

:

But I know you're lying if

you tell me you haven't.

856

:

Shaun: No, it's so true.

857

:

It's like everyone, people

rush to post one or two things.

858

:

Mm-hmm.

859

:

If something terrible is happening

or if something amazing is happening.

860

:

It's because they either want people to

think their life is so great, or they

861

:

want people to feel so awful for them.

862

:

And it makes no sense to me when

something awful is going on in my

863

:

life for the most part, like with

the exception of losing one of our

864

:

pets, I stay pretty quiet about it.

865

:

Mm-hmm.

866

:

At least at this point in time in my life.

867

:

And the only reason I didn't stay

quiet about that was it was like.

868

:

Peter: It was a major event.

869

:

Shaun: Yeah.

870

:

And it was it was a healing process

for me to be able to talk about it.

871

:

I don't feel that it's appropriate to

capitalize on other people's trauma.

872

:

Right.

873

:

If.

874

:

Your partner is diagnosed with the

disease and you decide to post it all

875

:

over social media, that's a little cringe.

876

:

Peter: Yeah, it's very much so.

877

:

If you're, if they have a

terminal illness, I see.

878

:

It's not for sympathy, it's

more for comfort at that point.

879

:

But yeah, don't go posting everyone's

shit all over the internet because

880

:

you need some sort of validation.

881

:

Or to have people pity you.

882

:

There is literally a mental illness

for this called Munchausen Syndrome.

883

:

Shaun: Yeah,

884

:

Peter: go look it up if you don't

know what it is, if you do, no, sorry.

885

:

If you dunno what it is, just

look at Gypsy Rose Blanchard.

886

:

That was Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

887

:

So her mom was just keeping her

sick so that she could get sympathy.

888

:

She'd have people sympathize for her.

889

:

It's the same situation except you're

only doing it for yourself at this point.

890

:

Shaun: Yeah.

891

:

Peter: But yeah, exactly.

892

:

It's pretty fucked up.

893

:

I hate that.

894

:

But why are we competing

to see who has it worse?

895

:

Shaun: I don't know.

896

:

Why is it an accomplishment to have it

the worst or to, for people to consider

897

:

what's going on in your life to be

worse than what's going on in theirs?

898

:

Peter: Right.

899

:

How are you going to sit here and tell

me what's going on in my life is not as

900

:

important or not as severe as your trauma?

901

:

To me it is, but I'm not posting about it.

902

:

Yeah, so people need to

self-reflect a little,

903

:

Shaun: it goes back to that

whole main character syndrome.

904

:

Everyone thinks that they are the.

905

:

The the plot line?

906

:

Is that the right word to use?

907

:

I don't know.

908

:

They think that they're the protagonist.

909

:

Yeah.

910

:

They think that they are the protagonist.

911

:

They think they are the

main key to the story.

912

:

And you know what?

913

:

It's, no one person is even in a story.

914

:

No one person truly is.

915

:

It may be from the focus of

one person's point of view.

916

:

It may seem to revolve around

one, but there is no full

917

:

story with just one person.

918

:

Peter: Right.

919

:

It wouldn't be a story.

920

:

There would be nobody to tell anything.

921

:

Shaun: Yeah.

922

:

Peter: But can you, aside from the

example of somebody talking about their

923

:

significant other personal diagnoses

posting that everywhere, can you cite

924

:

an example, another example of what,

when somebody thinks they have it worse.

925

:

Shaun: Donald Trump.

926

:

Peter: I mean, yeah.

927

:

Shaun: He thinks everybody's

like out to get him.

928

:

He thinks that every

question is a nasty question.

929

:

I don't know why you

would ask that question.

930

:

It's a nasty question.

931

:

Peter: Yeah.

932

:

When he can't answer.

933

:

Everybody is a shithead and they

basically don't, they don't know what

934

:

they're talking about and he deflects.

935

:

It's an awful question.

936

:

It was a nasty question, and he

couldn't freaking stand up to Kamala.

937

:

So Jana, he can't, he

couldn't stand up to Kamala.

938

:

He was sitting there and he

couldn't even, she's a nasty woman.

939

:

Nasty woman, nasty.

940

:

She's a nasty woman.

941

:

But it's also comes down to people

having bad days at like work too.

942

:

And they have the people that

one up them all the time.

943

:

God, I hate that shit.

944

:

For example, we would, when I worked at

a specific company my cousin who was very

945

:

young, passed away and I was not feeling.

946

:

And I was very quiet, which is so

against who I am as a person now.

947

:

And I just didn't wanna talk to anybody.

948

:

And one of the people I was friends

with at work came over and hugged me

949

:

and they're like, I know how it feels.

950

:

I just lost my father.

951

:

I'm like, okay, were you trying

to make me feel better or were

952

:

you trying to make yourself feel

better or more important than me?

953

:

Yeah, it's a lot of people

don't think about those things.

954

:

Yeah.

955

:

They're like, oh, I'm helping you,

but really you're making it about you.

956

:

Shaun: Yeah.

957

:

Do you have any people at work like that?

958

:

I don't feel like I necessarily do

'cause I remote and like I don't have.

959

:

Those type of interactions with people.

960

:

I don't really, there's not many

people that I work with that know

961

:

much about what's going on in my life.

962

:

Mm-hmm.

963

:

So I, not to that extent.

964

:

When we lost our cat, my, my boss did go

into a story about when he lost his dog.

965

:

But I think that was like in an attempt

to comfort me and it wasn't recent.

966

:

It was like a, an older story.

967

:

Mm-hmm.

968

:

So it didn't quite feel that way, but.

969

:

Peter: It didn't feel like it was a jab.

970

:

Yeah.

971

:

It felt like it was actually a comfort.

972

:

Shaun: Yeah.

973

:

Yeah, exactly.

974

:

Because he was talking about how sometimes

they can be more like family than humans.

975

:

Peter: Mm-hmm.

976

:

But yeah I don't know why

people, like you said, have to

977

:

have a main character moment.

978

:

And it really does cause people,

so like you'll stop and you'll

979

:

watch those videos on TikTok where.

980

:

It's the girl talking about how

managers don't treat her them well and

981

:

they're just not getting paid enough.

982

:

And you want me to do more

responsibilities and you're

983

:

gonna give me more pay.

984

:

Doesn't that how it works?

985

:

But you watch them because it makes you

pissed off that you feel, they feel so

986

:

entitled that they need to get more money.

987

:

Shaun: Yeah.

988

:

Peter: Meanwhile, you're over

here, you're busing your ass and

989

:

you're doing everything possible.

990

:

And then they get pissed

when you get the promotion

991

:

Shaun: as if you were, you're somehow

thinking you're entitled to it, and they

992

:

were the one who should have gotten it.

993

:

And it's like there are multiple things

that typically go into a promotion.

994

:

It's not just that you want it, it's it

also, you need to be qualified for it.

995

:

You need to work for it.

996

:

You need to.

997

:

Show that you deserve it more than

somebody else, especially when

998

:

more than one person wants it.

999

:

Peter: Right.

:

00:43:53,537 --> 00:43:56,417

And there's also I don't know if you

know this, but there are emotion,

:

00:43:56,747 --> 00:43:59,417

moral, emotional language words.

:

00:44:00,117 --> 00:44:06,677

So there are words that they literally put

out there to incite anger from someone.

:

00:44:07,837 --> 00:44:08,497

So Really?

:

00:44:08,927 --> 00:44:09,217

Yeah.

:

00:44:09,437 --> 00:44:13,427

So trigger words, they have

them for example, PTSD.

:

00:44:14,667 --> 00:44:15,967

It incites anger in people.

:

00:44:16,507 --> 00:44:16,927

It does.

:

00:44:16,927 --> 00:44:21,357

When the person is using it and

it's oh yeah, I have PTSD because

:

00:44:21,457 --> 00:44:25,037

one time I fell down and someone

like popped a balloon in my ear.

:

00:44:25,917 --> 00:44:26,847

Shaun: Okay, I see what you're saying.

:

00:44:27,267 --> 00:44:30,167

And then when someone who has

P-S-T-S-D from going to war,

:

00:44:31,167 --> 00:44:31,387

Peter: yes.

:

00:44:31,407 --> 00:44:31,827

That's

:

00:44:31,877 --> 00:44:33,167

Shaun: Like that could make them angry.

:

00:44:33,347 --> 00:44:34,287

Peter: That's legitimate.

:

00:44:34,907 --> 00:44:36,887

So the people are doing that.

:

00:44:36,887 --> 00:44:38,167

People that are.

:

00:44:39,167 --> 00:44:39,457

Okay.

:

00:44:39,717 --> 00:44:44,907

For example, my biggest one is when

I hear people say, oh, that makes

:

00:44:44,907 --> 00:44:47,187

me anxious, that gives me anxiety.

:

00:44:48,257 --> 00:44:49,987

Anxiety is a mental condition.

:

00:44:51,367 --> 00:44:52,417

Have you been diagnosed?

:

00:44:54,327 --> 00:44:57,187

How the fuck are you gonna sit here

and say, that gives me anxiety.

:

00:44:57,387 --> 00:44:58,947

I have so much anxiety right now.

:

00:45:00,347 --> 00:45:01,447

Do you take pills for it?

:

00:45:01,877 --> 00:45:03,047

Have you seen a psychiatrist?

:

00:45:04,227 --> 00:45:07,517

Anxiety is a condition that

you can feel from time to time.

:

00:45:07,517 --> 00:45:10,837

However, when you're sitting here

saying that it's crippling like that,

:

00:45:11,127 --> 00:45:14,757

maybe you should see a therapist, maybe

you should actually get a diagnosis.

:

00:45:15,107 --> 00:45:15,397

Shaun: Yeah,

:

00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:16,667

Peter: I

:

00:45:16,667 --> 00:45:17,547

Shaun: can see what you're saying.

:

00:45:18,867 --> 00:45:22,727

Peter: So people that are talking about

conditions that they don't necessarily

:

00:45:22,837 --> 00:45:26,607

have or have not been diagnosed with,

those are triggering to other people.

:

00:45:27,547 --> 00:45:29,357

Things like first world problems.

:

00:45:29,357 --> 00:45:33,452

When people say that, you're

basically saying that other

:

00:45:33,452 --> 00:45:37,142

people are not rich like you.

:

00:45:38,822 --> 00:45:42,562

When people, especially when

celebrities start talking about

:

00:45:42,562 --> 00:45:47,412

how much money they have, how much

money they make, that pisses me off.

:

00:45:47,652 --> 00:45:48,612

I don't know about you.

:

00:45:49,412 --> 00:45:50,932

Shaun: I, yeah, I know one that.

:

00:45:52,547 --> 00:45:53,367

Pisses me off.

:

00:45:53,387 --> 00:45:59,127

Pisses you off a bit, but when

creators go on and talk about how

:

00:45:59,127 --> 00:46:01,407

cheap certain places are mm-hmm.

:

00:46:02,037 --> 00:46:04,277

It's yes, it is cheap to you.

:

00:46:04,497 --> 00:46:06,597

It is not necessarily cheap

to the people who live there.

:

00:46:06,667 --> 00:46:09,997

It's rude that you're going

on here and saying this.

:

00:46:10,547 --> 00:46:12,757

It's like demoralizing almost.

:

00:46:12,757 --> 00:46:13,037

Right?

:

00:46:13,037 --> 00:46:14,837

Is that, am I not using that word right.

:

00:46:15,837 --> 00:46:17,637

Peter: I wouldn't say demoralizing.

:

00:46:17,717 --> 00:46:18,877

I would say more condescending.

:

00:46:19,187 --> 00:46:19,477

Okay.

:

00:46:19,587 --> 00:46:20,757

That then, yeah.

:

00:46:20,797 --> 00:46:22,077

A lot of people do that.

:

00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:24,997

They sit there and they talk

about how cheap something is, and

:

00:46:25,367 --> 00:46:26,877

cheap is a matter of perspective.

:

00:46:28,017 --> 00:46:29,267

It's subjective completely.

:

00:46:29,977 --> 00:46:30,467

Exactly.

:

00:46:31,057 --> 00:46:31,347

Yeah.

:

00:46:31,567 --> 00:46:35,707

See, you could live here in the

northeast and then go somewhere that

:

00:46:36,207 --> 00:46:40,927

the cost of living is significantly

lower, like Alabama or Mississippi.

:

00:46:42,607 --> 00:46:47,777

New Mexico even in the Midwest, you

can go to places and then you're like,

:

00:46:47,837 --> 00:46:52,587

oh, the cost of living is so much

higher in the New England states that

:

00:46:52,607 --> 00:46:54,027

you go there and you're like, oh shit.

:

00:46:55,227 --> 00:46:56,287

It is, it's cheap.

:

00:46:56,437 --> 00:46:57,247

It's cheap to live here.

:

00:46:57,247 --> 00:46:58,807

It's not cheap for the

people that live there.

:

00:46:59,397 --> 00:46:59,687

Yeah.

:

00:47:00,447 --> 00:47:03,527

A lot of people are struggling in

that area and you're coming in,

:

00:47:03,527 --> 00:47:05,767

you're like, oh yeah, this is nothing.

:

00:47:07,672 --> 00:47:09,517

Tell me how that's not condescending.

:

00:47:09,517 --> 00:47:13,407

Plus the tiktoks that are out

there flaunting their wads of cash.

:

00:47:14,257 --> 00:47:15,307

That pisses me off

:

00:47:15,497 --> 00:47:19,537

Shaun: when people make videos and

take pictures of big wads of are you

:

00:47:19,557 --> 00:47:21,737

asking for someone to try and rob you?

:

00:47:22,407 --> 00:47:23,617

Yeah, they are.

:

00:47:24,157 --> 00:47:24,897

It is not gonna be me.

:

00:47:24,897 --> 00:47:27,607

Trust me, I have no interest in

robbing anybody, but that's just

:

00:47:28,007 --> 00:47:30,367

enticing people to do you wrong.

:

00:47:30,997 --> 00:47:31,287

Peter: Yeah.

:

00:47:32,247 --> 00:47:33,347

It is inviting harm.

:

00:47:35,002 --> 00:47:35,882

But they still do it.

:

00:47:35,942 --> 00:47:36,962

And why do they do it?

:

00:47:38,012 --> 00:47:39,742

Because it pisses us off.

:

00:47:41,467 --> 00:47:45,237

That was the whole point

of it pisses you off.

:

00:47:45,657 --> 00:47:48,157

So you're gonna send it to

three of your friends saying,

:

00:47:48,167 --> 00:47:49,677

isn't this guy a douche bag?

:

00:47:50,897 --> 00:47:53,637

And now all of a sudden

they're like, yeah it is.

:

00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:55,597

They're gonna send it to

more of their friends.

:

00:47:55,707 --> 00:47:55,997

Yeah.

:

00:47:55,997 --> 00:47:57,477

And now it's going viral.

:

00:47:58,347 --> 00:47:58,637

Shaun: Yeah.

:

00:47:58,797 --> 00:48:03,157

'cause every single time you share that,

it's getting another share, another share.

:

00:48:03,517 --> 00:48:04,347

Another, share

:

00:48:04,347 --> 00:48:05,107

Peter: another comment.

:

00:48:05,232 --> 00:48:09,162

Shaun: Even if you're not sharing it on

social media, you're sharing it like a

:

00:48:09,462 --> 00:48:12,842

Instagram reel through a whatchamacallit.

:

00:48:13,202 --> 00:48:14,722

I believe it counts as a share.

:

00:48:14,782 --> 00:48:15,202

Peter: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:15,952 --> 00:48:17,362

Shaun: Through a text

message or something.

:

00:48:17,462 --> 00:48:17,682

Yep.

:

00:48:17,832 --> 00:48:20,882

Peter: They all count as shares, and

then the moment that you put a comment

:

00:48:20,942 --> 00:48:23,122

on it, you have now paid somebody.

:

00:48:24,502 --> 00:48:27,242

It was free for you to put

your hate up, but now you've

:

00:48:27,242 --> 00:48:28,362

made money for someone else.

:

00:48:28,862 --> 00:48:31,082

Shaun: That's like the person

who asked me if the whole.

:

00:48:32,102 --> 00:48:36,047

Reason for Chick not TikTok for

Instagram was to be monetized.

:

00:48:36,187 --> 00:48:39,127

I'm like, well, no, but

I'll let you believe that if

:

00:48:39,127 --> 00:48:39,927

that's what you wanna believe.

:

00:48:40,277 --> 00:48:40,567

Peter: Yeah.

:

00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:43,607

People don't understand social media.

:

00:48:44,387 --> 00:48:46,967

So they automatically think that

it's programmed against them.

:

00:48:47,157 --> 00:48:47,447

Yeah.

:

00:48:47,947 --> 00:48:53,327

And in a way it is, but not in

the waves that they're thinking.

:

00:48:54,577 --> 00:48:58,317

It is people that do not educate

themselves on social media.

:

00:48:59,812 --> 00:49:01,552

You are like the prime target Yes.

:

00:49:01,612 --> 00:49:03,312

For all of these algorithms.

:

00:49:04,252 --> 00:49:06,472

Shaun: So if you don't have

the time to educate yourself

:

00:49:06,472 --> 00:49:07,512

on it, just don't get on them.

:

00:49:07,562 --> 00:49:07,912

Right.

:

00:49:08,052 --> 00:49:09,632

Do yourself a favor and everybody else.

:

00:49:10,722 --> 00:49:11,072

Peter: Right.

:

00:49:11,312 --> 00:49:14,192

'cause you're gonna sit there and be

like, oh my God, why is this push to me?

:

00:49:14,332 --> 00:49:17,112

And then a few years

later, you're a racist.

:

00:49:17,502 --> 00:49:17,792

Shaun: Yeah.

:

00:49:18,172 --> 00:49:23,272

So tell cousin Phil, auntie

Jeanette, all Uncle Larry.

:

00:49:24,472 --> 00:49:27,092

To stay the fuck off if they

don't know what's going on.

:

00:49:27,272 --> 00:49:27,492

You

:

00:49:27,492 --> 00:49:27,812

Peter: gotta go

:

00:49:27,812 --> 00:49:28,412

Shaun: older than that.

:

00:49:28,582 --> 00:49:28,932

Peter: Ethel.

:

00:49:29,962 --> 00:49:30,972

Shaun: That was my grandmother's

:

00:49:30,972 --> 00:49:31,092

Peter: name.

:

00:49:31,432 --> 00:49:31,852

Oh yeah.

:

00:49:31,852 --> 00:49:35,892

It was shit that was totally not planned.

:

00:49:36,892 --> 00:49:37,182

Rose.

:

00:49:38,182 --> 00:49:39,322

She sunk the Titanic?

:

00:49:39,342 --> 00:49:40,202

No, she did it.

:

00:49:40,702 --> 00:49:41,522

She thought the old

:

00:49:41,522 --> 00:49:43,002

Shaun: lady dropped into

the ocean at the end.

:

00:49:43,742 --> 00:49:44,522

Peter: She was pushed.

:

00:49:45,742 --> 00:49:46,722

She was pushed.

:

00:49:47,522 --> 00:49:49,562

I would push her too for

that diamond necklace.

:

00:49:51,502 --> 00:49:57,362

But anyway so yeah, just we wanna

encourage you to think about something

:

00:49:57,362 --> 00:50:00,162

before you decide to put your hate on it.

:

00:50:00,302 --> 00:50:00,722

Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:01,342 --> 00:50:02,482

Spread it to somebody.

:

00:50:03,252 --> 00:50:04,042

Think about that.

:

00:50:04,352 --> 00:50:05,442

It's like an STI.

:

00:50:07,147 --> 00:50:11,127

You put that hate out there

and it spreads like the clap.

:

00:50:11,497 --> 00:50:11,847

Right?

:

00:50:12,947 --> 00:50:14,007

And there is no cure.

:

00:50:15,247 --> 00:50:17,747

Oh, thankfully there is

for the clap, but yeah.

:

00:50:19,447 --> 00:50:21,227

But not for hatred.

:

00:50:21,657 --> 00:50:22,547

There's no cure.

:

00:50:23,327 --> 00:50:24,507

No, no.

:

00:50:24,507 --> 00:50:27,897

Unfortunately there is not

a cure for stupidity either.

:

00:50:27,917 --> 00:50:29,137

And that is highly contagious.

:

00:50:29,597 --> 00:50:29,817

Yes.

:

00:50:31,287 --> 00:50:33,187

So with that being said.

:

00:50:34,512 --> 00:50:40,852

Next week we will be doing our

final episode of season one.

:

00:50:41,972 --> 00:50:44,112

So you're gonna wanna join in for that.

:

00:50:44,972 --> 00:50:45,192

Woo.

:

00:50:46,292 --> 00:50:52,372

Season two will begin about a week

or two weeks out from that day,

:

00:50:52,392 --> 00:50:53,852

but we'll keep you guys posted.

:

00:50:54,422 --> 00:50:57,782

We got some interesting content

that's coming down on that one.

:

00:50:58,192 --> 00:50:59,122

Some interesting.

:

00:51:00,072 --> 00:51:02,702

Interviews that will be

on that season as well.

:

00:51:03,172 --> 00:51:03,462

Yeah.

:

00:51:03,972 --> 00:51:05,142

More collaboration.

:

00:51:05,762 --> 00:51:05,982

Yes.

:

00:51:06,052 --> 00:51:11,802

Hopefully we've put a lot of feelers

out there for people and we will be

:

00:51:13,202 --> 00:51:14,972

ramping things up for season two.

:

00:51:15,812 --> 00:51:16,092

Absolutely.

:

00:51:16,792 --> 00:51:21,332

In the interim while we are on this

little hiatus from our main podcast,

:

00:51:21,672 --> 00:51:26,412

we will still be putting out our mini

episodes because we do have lots of news.

:

00:51:27,927 --> 00:51:30,077

Going forward and some new ideas.

:

00:51:30,617 --> 00:51:30,837

Yes.

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00:51:30,897 --> 00:51:31,877

And some new ideas.

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So we want to share those with you.

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We don't wanna leave you

hanging for two weeks.

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So you will get some sporadic

mini episodes through that time.

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And they will actually be very exciting.

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It was very exciting for us.

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Woo.

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But with that being said, Shaun, did

you wanna say anything to our listeners?

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Shaun: Try not to rage,

to follow for rage bait.

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Don't, give into the backlash the

way that ev against Sydney Sweeney,

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the way that everybody else has.

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Oh my God, it's not her fault.

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Yeah.

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That American Eagle paid her

that much money for the ad.

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Peter: You

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Shaun: would do it too.

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Peter: Yeah, I think we all would.

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But with that being said and this will be.

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A complete contradiction.

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If you've survived this conversation

and your blood pressure is still

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normal, confuse the algorithm.

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Share this episode with a

friend who loves a hot take.

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Then put your phone on Do not

disturb for the next hour.

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With that being said, it is nice.

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Joining you today, Shaun.

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Shaun: Nice joining you

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Peter: today, Peter.

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And we'll catch you guys next time.

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Bye bye.

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Three queer millennials—a sarcastic fitness instructor, a stoner drag enthusiast, and his brutally honest boyfriend—tackle the chaos of modern life with unfiltered humor and overpriced produce.

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